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World Bosses and server firsts


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BassDeluxe
12.18.2011 , 01:21 AM | #1
So my guild took out Grandfather and The First today in the hopes of achieving server firsts, however, the game offers no way of knowing if that was achieved or not. Most games have a server announcement or an achievement for getting server first, but this one has neither. Even without those things we still thought we had server first because world bosses traditionally take at least a couple of days to respawn. However, a mere two hours later I returned only to find that grandfather was alive and kicking, leaving us with no idea if we were server first or not.

It's possible his respawn was a bug, and if so, consider this a bug report. However, I still feel SWTOR would be benefited by both a server-wide announcement and an achievement for killing the world boss first.

I know all of this sounds very negative (and I suppose it is) but let me add here that this is a minor flaw in a great game that I have been enjoying greatly thus far, and expect to enjoy greatly far into the future.

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Loyaltrekie
12.18.2011 , 01:37 AM | #2
1) There is no notification
2) It was already done in beta
3) The lower level ones were done day 1 of pre-play, and afaik everything up to level 40 has already been cleared on almost every server
4) Who cares whose 'first' - accomplishment should be for YOU and YOUR friends; I gurantee you that 98% of the rest of the population doesn't care what your 'personal achievement' is.
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BassDeluxe
12.18.2011 , 01:37 AM | #3
@Loyaltrekie

1) Yeah. That's what I said. Read better.
2) What does this matter?
3) Based on what evidence? If you could know this then you and wouldn't be having this discussion
4) Being first to do something is an accomplishment in and of itself. Like I said to Evilthug, it's not a pride or bragging issue - it's just for the fun of competition. But if we can't know then there's no competition. And besides, even if only 2% care, as you said, that's still no reason not to have this implemented. It doesn't hurt the 98%, so no one loses.

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Jisu
12.18.2011 , 04:29 AM | #4
There's no reason to have "server firsts" other than flaunting your epeen. You can argue it however you want, but it's the truth. Two years from now, no one will give a crap about who killed what first, but I will guarantee you that you will be eager as hell to say "Yeah, me and my friends were the first to kill this" as if it actually mattered to the person you were talking to, and no doubt with the idea that it somehow gives you some sort of massive nerd-cred and the illusion of superiority.

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Unaki
12.18.2011 , 04:49 AM | #5
Sadly, even mentioning server firsts brings out the people who think that being competitive in any shape or form is a bad thing. Some people enjoy being the first to do something on a game as the content comes straight from the oven and beta kills don't count, which I can't see why people think doing it in beta was a big deal. The servers were not the same despite similar names, everything was wiped, and stats/talents worked differently so saying it was done first in beta shows that you are incompetent. I will bring out my own responses on the matter though.

My guild got the server first on SD-0 on Corellian Run on the 3rd day (The 5 people who space-barred everything were around 25 at the time on the server and no one was above 20 aside from them). I was on most of the time and so were my guildmates all hours of the day and they didn't see anybody talking about fighting him, other than the fail groups of level 14s.

I can't say at this point how the other world bosses are faring on my own server but they have more than likely fallen so you may not have a server first. Generally content like that is downed within days of it coming out when everyone gets to the level for it.


Quote: Originally Posted by Jisu View Post
There's no reason to have "server firsts" other than flaunting your epeen. You can argue it however you want, but it's the truth. Two years from now, no one will give a crap about who killed what first, but I will guarantee you that you will be eager as hell to say "Yeah, me and my friends were the first to kill this" as if it actually mattered to the person you were talking to, and no doubt with the idea that it somehow gives you some sort of massive nerd-cred and the illusion of superiority.
Believe it or not, having a server first, especially on raid content is a huge deal for raiding guilds, though I bet you have ever been a part of a decent one. Being able to show a server first on your guild's "banner" means that your guild gets a lot more attention and it shows the community that you are part of a really really good guild.
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Nicze
12.18.2011 , 04:50 AM | #6
No one cares about server firsts. Deal with it.

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Heimskringla
12.18.2011 , 07:34 AM | #7
IIRC the developers chose not to have server firsts for a reason.
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Invitcted
12.18.2011 , 07:41 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Unaki View Post
Believe it or not, having a server first, especially on raid content is a huge deal for raiding guilds, though I bet you have ever been a part of a decent one. Being able to show a server first on your guild's "banner" means that your guild gets a lot more attention and it shows the community that you are part of a really really good guild.
Nightmare raiding server firsts are one thing. A non max level 'world boss' is just an elite mob and hardly warrants the level of recognition this guy is claiming he deserves.
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Balancer
12.18.2011 , 10:31 AM | #9
really no one cares for server firsts really
reason for this: it is no achievement at all! there are way to many points to influence who gets it first
- time of EGA
- Guild or random Raid
- spawn rate of the boss
- server type
- and many more i dont come up with

and most important: its just a virtual game, if u want to achieve something people care for do it in this Galaxy

oh and btw no offense here, i`m fine with your way to play just hab to throw my 2 cents in
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Sixaola
12.18.2011 , 10:37 AM | #10
Deevelopers were really clear that they were not going to have achievement type of rewards for server first, as the game is not meant to create a competition environment present in other games. They mentioned that given this game is centered on story, which means taking your time to achieve things, providing a server first type of thing would be counterproductive to the game.

Sorry, I guess if you are in a game where server firsts are important, this game might actually be dissappointing in the long run.
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