(From Taugrim.com)SWTOR Has Repeated RIFT’s Mistakes in Endgame PVP

You might want to actually review his guides before you go judging taugrim. He actually does provide some valuable information with regard to some classes in swtor and, in the past, RIFT. If you're all super-elite mr. or mrs. bad*****, then you don't need his advice and there is no need to bash him.

And who in here gets PAID to play SWTOR? Are any of you professional SWTOR pvp'rs? NO? Perhaps instead try to contribute something useful to either the forums or to the game. Hating and negativity solves nothing, gives nothing.

That being said, I do not agree with this statement that 1.2 was "grindy", especially given that the pre-1.2 experience was far more harsh than post 1.2. Recruit gear does help somewhat and I don't think the disparity between recruit and full BM is enough to deter new pvp'rs. As mentioned, BW has other issues that are leading to unsubs and low populations on servers.

Moving on I do completely agree with the following:

"With the sweeping changes to classes in 1.2, PVP outcomes are now heavily influenced by which classes your group contains."

This is an absolutely correct assessment. The point being, and this is important, that it does not matter what your SKILL LEVEL is, you are not going to win that warzone match if the other team is comprised of the FOTM club players. I've been in WZs where I was the only dps (and as a JKG Vigilance spec, that's really not saying much) and we faced two or three healing operatives and the rest were either marauders or assassins. Yeah, good luck trying to kill even ONE of them.

That is a significant problem that needs to be addressed, although I'm not sure what the solution should be. Anyway, I really do think taug contributes to the swtor community in a positive manner and should not be dismissed. If you already know EVERYTHING, then fine, go blog it up and post your links. Otherwise, yeah.

-Shaka

I support Taugrim's message and AGREE 100%.

No.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5vzCmURh7o

This is what pvpers who dont like RPG's want.

I've played with this guy in Rift. They never used a ranking system so you couldn't point to a special score to determine who was the best, but absolutely none of us on the defiant side ever liked seeing his dwarf show up in the battle grounds. At best, you killed his team out from under him and then went for Taugrim. If he was with his guild in a premade, his tank cleric would simply suck up your DPS until the rest of his team showed back up.

The point I'm trying to make here is that those of you who have played either no MMOs or only WoW need to shut up and learn to listen. Taugrim designs his specs and tailors his way of doing things strictly by the numbers. He knows what he is talking about and is very, very good.

It's not just getting the gear. Let's take a pre 1.2 full BM, for example. Did i stop once I got my full BM set? No. I had to get other pieces to rip out mods to fix my stats, because the stat distribution on the BM set sucked. It was horrible.

When 1.2 hit, all of the stats on my BM gear were put back into retard mode. And, I couldn't fix it since they put expertise on everything which forces you to get more of the new gear to fix your stats again.

Now, it would be foolish to put that kind of effort into fixing your BM gear. It needs to be saved for War Hero gear. You can't really start fixing yourself unless you have War Hero gear. I'm thinking a full War Hero toon with augments and adjusted mods is going to destroy someone in BM gear out-of-the-box.

A competitive PvPer wants to be in the best gear they can possibly have not to have advantage over others but to know that they don't have a disadvantage against others. I'm not willing to grind to reach that level when there is a game on the horizon that will let me reach that level in a matter of minutes from rolling a level one character.

SWTOR PvP is dead when GW2 comes out. Dead. The SWTOR developers won't be able to compete with what GW2 has to offer. IMO, they should turn 100% of their attention to PvE players.

This. 1.2 brought alot of improvements to PvP overall (minus the Sorc changes).

It's far from being ideal, but that only speaks to how much worse things were pre-1.2

And for those who want RPG and PVP they have World versus World which still emphasizes gear progression. Which is another aspect of PvP that I enjoy. With GW2 you actually get an OPTION as to which type of PvP you want to do.

SWTOR will be dead to PvPers when GW2 comes out.

yep and after 1 month beeing exactly at the same point where u were day one and after 2 month beeing still there nothing changed and after 6 month still doing exactly the same, same gear same pvp same warzone WvWvW nothing change nothing last everything reset no real effect no the world no real effect on ur guild no real effect on your character

you get bored on SWTOR in 1 month of doing the same stuff WHILE GEARING UP and changing spec/gear every time

and you praise a game that wont change in 6 month (thats why there is no monthly payment don't you get it???)

GW2 will be very very big the first 2 month 3 for the PRO-pvper that will mix max THE GROUP (no the gear since they are all the same)

after that nothing i personally without all the math and the fun in changing gear and testing this and that would have already gone from SWTOR so probably wont last more then 1 month in GW2

every pg can do everything everybody geared the same it's a FPS and i dont like FPS

I think the post is right on.
So many players on here comparing him to "top" or "ranked" players of which none or few of the posters in here or -in-game are either. I've played lots and lots of warzones and trust me....not many players in this game are as good as they are at posting in these forums about how good they are. I'd say more than 75% of players are PUG players and only a few premades are of top quality from what I see.

What we ALL should be concerned with is the player base (ie people that pay for this game to stay alive). If we have an imbalance which is obvious by number of profession rerolls to certain classes and lack of playing others, then there are some issues whether or not you want to admit it or not...he hits the nail on the head tbh.

The gear difference and the new tankdps classes are what is out of whack here. I think the gear question would have been solved if Ranked WZs were in place when they did the gear change, but since they are not and we have no outlook about when they will be...well, its just garbage now.

The mismatches are happening way more now and the communication we have heard so far is that they are overall very happy with the changes in-house. What I hear in vent, in-game and on these very forums from players seems to be that they are overall unhappy about it and we know the numbers are dropping daily for whatever reasons.

TLDR version...Call Taugrim whatever you want, but we obviously have some problems here.