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Mallorik
05.18.2012 , 04:42 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by siegedeluxe View Post
Same server simply will not work and I hope BioWare realizes it and delays the patch to make the lfd cross-server. But looking at how bioware has implemented changes to their game, it looks like are dead-set on repeating every mistake done in the mmo scene.
Yeah i really hope they do too. its kind of fun arguing with these people and try to find out what mystical place they get their beleifs from but in the end i hope the devs dont get their ideas from that same place.

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Valkirus
05.18.2012 , 04:43 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
Don't let the logout screen hit in the rear on the way out.
This is why the so called " community " in TOR is no different than any other MMO. You are going to have those who donot care about others no matter what. But with a cross server LFG tool, I can continue to play the game in spite of them. I have found the ignore list to work very well in WoW. It is one less jerk to worry about running with.
Trust is something which is earned.

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Taorus
05.18.2012 , 04:44 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Really? so you think that the burning crussade (same server lfg tool) or at any time before had moire subs than wrath of the litch king (cross server lfg) or cataclysm?
Change the argument all you like Fact is: Since WoW launched it's Looking for Dungeon tool...it has lost 2.2 Million subs.

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siegedeluxe
05.18.2012 , 04:48 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Taorus View Post
Change the argument all you like Fact is: Since WoW launched it's Looking for Dungeon tool...it has lost 2.2 Million subs.
Which has nothing to do with the LFD in itself.

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Taorus
05.18.2012 , 04:50 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by siegedeluxe View Post
Which has nothing to do with the LFD in itself.
You have proof it didn't?

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Ratajack
05.18.2012 , 04:52 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Thank you for your response. I see your point. I am going to respond to what you said but this in no way directed at you. I am just curious.

If there was an "option" to be Single Server Search or Cross Server Search, wouldn't the people that want to form a community be more likely to just use the Single Server Search option and those that just want to group no matter who is in the group just natureally divide? Wouln't those that wanted a community to form just naturally gravitate together? If this isn't the case and those that claim to want a community would just use the cross server option to get a group regardless of who they are playing with, can they make the argument that it must be single server only because hey, the option to cross server was there and I was sooooo tempted ... Darn you BW you tempted me away from forming a community?

I still don't see why there couldn't be an option to use both. Lazy players are lazy, right? If those that claim to want community but are too lazy to use the single server option or are too weak willed to avoid the temptation of using the cross server option why should BW be the police to manage their predilictions? Kinda a nanny state mentality if you think about it. IMHO in MMORPGs options are better than no options.
That would depend on how the option would be implemented. If it groups within server first, so that the people who queue cross server are more likely to be grouped with people from the same server, then that might be an acceptable compromise.

If, on the other hand, the system creates two pools, one single server and one cross server, that would more than likely effectively remove single server as an option. Knowing how prevalent the instant gratification crowd is, why would I queue single server when I know that the vast majority are going to be queued cross server, thereby removing them from the pool I could be grouped with?

IMO, a single server tool offers the best solution. It allows for groups to randomly assembled from all those on the server who are queued while not forcing players who wish to group only with those from their own server to group with other servers, either by design or accidental consequence.

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Mallorik
05.18.2012 , 04:54 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Taorus View Post
Change the argument all you like Fact is: Since WoW launched it's Looking for Dungeon tool...it has lost 2.2 Million subs.
Changing what arguement? youre either rmisinformed or just flat out lying.

it had what? 8 million? when burning crusade released with a same server lfg tool. went up to 12 million before cata released and cross server had been in for a year or more? now its down to 10.2 million

Please point out where they lost numbers when they introduced the cross server tool.

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Taorus
05.18.2012 , 04:58 PM | #98
Its a wee lil thing called quarterly reports. WotLK did no release with LFD...came months after it released. If you look at those reports...Since the LFD was released... WoW lost 2.2 million subs.

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Mallorik
05.18.2012 , 05:00 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
IMO, a single server tool offers the best solution. It allows for groups to randomly assembled from all those on the server who are queued while not forcing players who wish to group only with those from their own server to group with other servers, either by design or accidental consequence.
And if you can point out to me when and where they have worked before or why they would work in swtor when they dont in others, ill agree.

And btw id be really happy to be proven wrong about the same server lfg tool not working, all i care about is that people get groups and stay happy to pay for a game that i want to see alot of content and expansions from. And im sure it will work ok during prime time for a couple of weeks after its released, I just dont want to see another too little too late story like Rift.

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chaosdefined
05.18.2012 , 05:17 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Taorus View Post
Its a wee lil thing called quarterly reports. WotLK did no release with LFD...came months after it released. If you look at those reports...Since the LFD was released... WoW lost 2.2 million subs.
If you look at the subscription graphs WoW didn't start losing 2million subscribers until 1 year after LFD was released.

Get your facts straight, you're embarrassing yourself.