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Blistrich
05.17.2012 , 11:09 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Hyperbole.

The number one issue with the game right now is server populations. Server transfers will address this. Impatient or intolerant people will unsubscribe before that. Those same people will very likely come back and try it again when server transfers reinvigorate the populations on a fewer number of total servers.
Really?

So the fact that we have...

4 PvP warzones and no new ones are planned...
No ranked warzones planned for 1.3...
No new PvE content planned...
No crafting adjustments planned...
No high textures planned... (even though they're in the game, we just can't use them)
No interesting races planned...

All of that will be meaningless because we can transfer to high pop servers with the same problems?

Frankie || Gunslinger || Harbinger
Twelve systems and counting...
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ACE-GIRL
05.17.2012 , 11:11 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Blistrich View Post
I'll just put it out there...

My biggest issue with SWTOR is that every time I load up the game now, all I can hear in my head is the classic Mario Bros. music playing. The more I play it, the more pointless and Mickey Mouse it becomes.

I really like what SWTOR could be. I dislike what it is.

Guess haters gonna hate. Like a boss. <insert more internetgobbledygook here>
Yup, im sitting here thinking back....ya i completely agree, but actually...and I AM NOT JUST SAYING THIS TO BE FUNNY, but super Mario Bros was a lot more fun than sitting on an empty fleet on an empty server with my tauntaun sitting next to me scratching itself. And on that note too bad a free tauntaun and 30 days free didnt even keep people from unsubbing before there time was up! so so very sad this game is, gave it many chances we did, dead it will be

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Darth_Gao_Gao
05.17.2012 , 11:11 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Blistrich View Post
Really?

So the fact that we have...

4 PvP warzones and no new ones are planned...
No ranked warzones planned for 1.3...
No new PvE content planned...
No crafting adjustments planned...
No high textures planned... (even though they're in the game, we just can't use them)
No interesting races planned...

All of that will be meaningless because we can transfer to high pop servers with the same problems?
even if all of those issues were addressed, none of them will matter if there isn't a population to experience such fixes with. it's a pretty simple concept, but i am not surprised that one of "you people" is trying to argue otherwise.

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Darth_Alki
05.17.2012 , 11:12 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Rouge View Post
Yes, it's the fault of players like you. Never trying to regain the fun factor by your own, always waiting for a patch to give it to you on a silver plate. Always wanting too much, always unhappy because of that. The typical MMO nomad, always wandering to find new pastures, never happy by those that are already available.
I've been patient. I've done everything to keep myself interested. I have 5 level 50 characters on 3 different servers. All of which are experiencing no population on servers. I don't need a silver platter, I just need something to eat. Right now, I'm starving and the game isn't offering much for me to eat to satisfy the hunger pains I am experiencing.

Our guild went from 132 members to 2.

I see 5-10 people on Fleet during prime time. PvP queues are over an hour, the Auction House is vacant and attempting to sell goods is wasted time as nothing ever sells. Dailies are boring now that I've done them every day for over a month. Datacron farming is complete.

I sat on the Fleet last night spamming LFG for anything ... I got one person to join me in 2 hours of spamming. I even got reported for spamming because I was the only one typing in chat, so it looked like I had spammed the crap out of it, when in reality, I waited 30 seconds to a minute to repeat said "LFG."

I've been gaming since the 70's and I know what it takes to keep myself busy in a game. However, doing the same thing over and over and over for months just isn't going to cut it when it comes to an MMO. If I want this type of gaming, I can get it from my console games. I expect more from a P2P game.

You should too ...

(BTW, Tera is an amazing game ... surprising, but true)
“When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep ... not screaming like the passengers in his car.”
. <--- Fear the Beta pixel!

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Celebrus
05.17.2012 , 11:12 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
That is simply not true. If there were only 50,000 players left playing, server transfers and shutting down dead servers after transfer to end uyp with a few populated servers woud revive the populations per server.

It's a populations per server issue to be addressed, not an absolute populations issue.
Are you even paying attention to what you are typing?

Take a look at the servers during prime time. There will be 0 that are full, 2 that are heavy, and about a dozen-18 that are standard. The rest of the 100+ servers NEVER EVEN BREACH LIGHT.

It used to be a per server population problem, like 2 months ago.

Now we have an overall population problem. But you'll argue that until the cows come home, because 2 months ago, people just like you were convinced there wasn't a problem at all, you just can't take off the rosy shades and see for yourself.

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evildestroyer
05.17.2012 , 11:13 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Rohgur View Post
This marks my first ever post and hopefully not my last.

After playing SWtOR for a full week trying out the starting points and some further content on various classes has given me quite a bit of a feel for this game. I honestly love the design. The idea of giving people the chance to play as their favorite role from an (in my opinion) amazing story is perfect. However, the design is indeed lacking. This, im sure, will be gradually fixed as time goes on. Just like in WoW, nothing was ever really perfect and even today, there are still many issues that disconcerts all kinds of players.

We need to be more patient with this game. Sure, some issues go unanswered, but there is only so much the developers can do in the time they have available to them. Personally, I think the starting locations should be race-based and not class-based. That is definitely going to get boring fast. Playing to enjoy the story is great, and personally, i think its perfect. However, end-game content should be just as abundant. If all level 50s have is a few "raids and instances" we are not going to want to sit on our 50s doing nothing. Thus where the starting points come in to play. Of course, all my informations is coming from what ive read here as well as researched.
Dont say crap like "we should be more patient", a lot of us been around and waiting since BETA or Early access not a full week. For months all we hear from Bioware is soon and soon and soon. All talk and no action and now look at prime time you have 90% of servers LIGHT, and light servers always will have less than 350 players.

Ill be surprised if even 500k players are playing this game world wide.

And stop comparing the early days of SWTOR to WoW, i hate when people do that. This isnt 2004. its 2012. Bioware had plenty of years to learn from WoW and other mmos but they didnt. We arent expecting EVERYTHING so early, but what we do expect is something innovative and your standard mmo features (transfers, lfg tool, cross server, etc. )

There is a reason why WoW kept so many players for so long and SWTOR cant.

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Andryah
05.17.2012 , 11:13 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Blistrich View Post
4 PvP warzones and no new ones are planned...
No ranked warzones planned for 1.3...
No new PvE content planned...
No crafting adjustments planned...
No high textures planned... (even though they're in the game, we just can't use them)
No interesting races planned...
None of your statements above are known fact. You actually do not know what they have planned for the game over time.

I think you are just hurt that they don't share their advance plans with you. Personally, I would not share them with you either if I were Bioware. You don't deserve it.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Lexster
05.17.2012 , 11:15 AM | #88
I am patient. Patiently awaiting a reason to log back in. Still have about 35 days or so until billing cycle forces me to decide.

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Captyellowbeard
05.17.2012 , 11:16 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
Are you even paying attention to what you are typing?

Take a look at the servers during prime time. There will be 0 that are full, 2 that are heavy, and about a dozen-18 that are standard. The rest of the 100+ servers NEVER EVEN BREACH LIGHT.

It used to be a per server population problem, like 2 months ago.

Now we have an overall population problem. But you'll argue that until the cows come home, because 2 months ago, people just like you were convinced there wasn't a problem at all, you just can't take off the rosy shades and see for yourself.
People that are in a populated server have no right to comment on the issue since they don't experience it.

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Andryah
05.17.2012 , 11:17 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by evildestroyer View Post
We arent expecting EVERYTHING so early, but what we do expect is something innovative and your standard mmo features (transfers, lfg tool, cross server, etc. )
Ah yes..... the angry "I" speaking as the imperial "we" once again.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.