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As A Sorcerer, Every One Is OP
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Ahhmyface
05.14.2012 , 11:59 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Laforet View Post
empire side on kinrath spider server. with the faction imbalance every imperal is a gear god.

not that it makes them better, it just makes them think they are better.
My assassin has more hp than most, and I have 5 war hero pieces with +18 wp +10 endurance augments and my hp is 17.4k. Just saying.
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Astarica
05.14.2012 , 12:03 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Ahhmyface View Post
My assassin has more hp than most, and I have 5 war hero pieces with +18 wp +10 endurance augments and my hp is 17.4k. Just saying.
Certain classes have higher HP on their class gear itemization. At least before 1.2 it's always looked like:

Tank gear
Merc DPS gear
Assassin DPS gear
Everyone else
Sorc DPS gear

Not sure if this is true on WH but a Sorc would definitely be the lowest HP person if he's using BM gear compared to other BM characters.

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audiorage
05.14.2012 , 12:08 PM | #33
i normally don't post on these forums, but this post made me login.

I feel exactly the opposite as the OP. In fact, i feel like every other class dies in 20 seconds or less to me as a Sage. The amount of single target damage that balance (dot tree) can output is insane. Add the fact that sever force (last skill in far right tree) roots regardless of resolve makes it so that if played correctly melee classes will never touch you.

If you feel as a sorc that every class destroys you, maybe the problem is with your current play style and not the class.
  • Try a full balance spec
  • Be smart about your force management
  • Surge and Power are your friends

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romoragan
05.14.2012 , 12:16 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by SLRPSJ View Post
If a sorc doesn't kite properly, he's dead much faster than that against equally geared opponents. Sorcs are the squishiest class make no mistake about it and if you disagree, you have not played one and are probably terrible at fighting them. I have 1300 expertise almost, but comparable dps classes cut through me like butter.

However, this is not to say that sorcs are underpowered. If I successfully get range, I can pump out a good amount of damage pretty quick. The trick is to be able to keep that range so you don't get nearly instagibbed.

I am constantly running around. I have a lot of experience in kiting though from dueling pre BC and BC on a resto shaman. Learn to kite and you will love your sorceror.
You are doing it right but OP clearly doesn't know how to kite. That's the whole problem with his post, simple L2P issue.

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DarthOvertone
05.14.2012 , 12:17 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Cempa View Post
I realize many people play on low population servers and they may not be seeing what the few high population servers are seeing now, and that is full teams with War Hero gear. May not be full War Hero but every single player has over 18k HP buffed and its all PvP gear.

Life as a Sorcerer against those teams sucks, DPS Sorcerer..Just sucks.
I've got news for you. Life against a good team in PvP that is coordinated, experienced and knows how to focus fire is rough, regardless of the class you play. My Shadow gets incinerated by focus fire, and he is one piece short of full WH. My Marauder gets incinerated by focus fire too. Welcome to PvP.

Class doesn't make much of a difference aside from an extra second of life, maybe two or three if you happen to have some cooldowns. I could see how server pop might, if you just end up playing against the same teams over and over.
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furiousferret
05.14.2012 , 01:45 PM | #36
My wife plays a sorc and goes down way too fast, but it still is the best healer in Warzones bar none. Operatives get all the hype because of the buffs, but we have a Sorc that regularly does 700-850k healing and on my wife's I got 400k in recruit gear.

Kiting and not being noticed are the keys of the class.

When she plays, if anyone touches her, she kites them away and whoever is targeting her is going to have to do it with a Full War Hero / Augmented Marauder on their back

I've even told people the consequences of attacking her, and they'll ignore me and play tough that game, but the next game, they find different targets!
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Astarica
05.14.2012 , 01:48 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
My wife plays a sorc and goes down way too fast, but it still is the best healer in Warzones bar none. Operatives get all the hype because of the buffs, but we have a Sorc that regularly does 700-850k healing and on my wife's I got 400k in recruit gear.

Kiting and not being noticed are the keys of the class.
A sorc's existence itself is considered either an affront to humanity or an easy kill, depending on the viewpoint of whoever is looking at you.

The only time I don't kill Sorcs is if they have shown signs that they play badly enough to be not worth the trouble killing. Chain casting Dark Heal is one of the best way to get a DPS off you, though that's kind of like saying /stuck causes you to lose your attacker too.

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Totaltrash
05.14.2012 , 02:07 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by SLRPSJ View Post
If a sorc doesn't kite properly, he's dead much faster than that against equally geared opponents. Sorcs are the squishiest class make no mistake about it and if you disagree, you have not played one and are probably terrible at fighting them. I have 1300 expertise almost, but comparable dps classes cut through me like butter.
I call bull.

I'm a WH sniper, about 18K health.
Upon first strike, an equally geared sorcerer (or sage) can take off about 13K health through entrench/dampeners, before I can execute one single ambush/probe/followthrough. If I cannot interrupt the next lightning/telekinesis attack, I'm dead.

Because of activation times and cooldowns, Sorcerers/Sages can generate roughly twice as much DPS as, for example, snipers.

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hamerdin
05.14.2012 , 02:32 PM | #39
I only read the first page of this thread..and i saw one guy mention that we sages/sorcs are a support class and he is absolutely right...my brother and i had a 50 bh and jugg and decided to reroll sages the both of us just cuz they are that awesome! we dont top charts by any means we roll a mixture of of balance and heal tree..but we always come out with most activity done during a wz.....its really important to LOS people...and run In my opinion...i think sages and sorcs are the op class..

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Tellahtron
05.14.2012 , 02:51 PM | #40
Im pretty sure you can win any of the 4 maps without actually killing a single person. So what if you die in 2 seconds, did you pass the ball? did you CC someone to allow a bomb planting/defuse? did you cap a turret?

TOR pvp is all about objectives, not dealing 8 bazillion damage or healing for Umpteen-thousands. You cap objectives, hold objectives, throw objectives.

Complaining is not yet an objective, but look forward to 1.5.. I hear its in the pipeline.
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