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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Skidrowbro
05.10.2012 , 07:10 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
People will cry and whine whether it's Single or Cross server. Please stop using WoW as an example of crybabies.
WoW is the perfect example. Ever since they went X-Server, everyone felt that they were entitled to everything in the game. The challenge level dropped, CC was taken out and bads ruled the Azeroth. The biggest complaint was people crying about how raids were inaccessible. Nothing was inaccessible, people just didn't want to put any effort in. As for Star Wars if you, and i don't mean you personally, have not met at least 3 friends for doing FP's, then you might be the problem, not the game. Like C'mon, for a game to boast to have 10 million plus players and no one can find a group, well excuse me while I laugh

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Valkirus
05.10.2012 , 07:12 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
100% false.

The idea is being able to play on your schedule when you want and when you have time. Server pop goes up and down, people come, people go, and there is no sure way you will get run without Cross-server. Much larger pool of people allows you to play when you want, including off peak times.
This is the "BIG KEY" why we need a cross server LFG tool. In fact I predict they eventually will. But I hope it is not too late when they do.
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Darkulous
05.10.2012 , 07:13 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Gimixes View Post
Yeah...LFG system ftw

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3980868309

server only is more then enough..no x-server
You're using exceptions as your arguement. Also, people in WoW don't for or against a X-server LFD, they argue the details of it and how to make it better.
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Darkulous
05.10.2012 , 07:20 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
WoW is the perfect example. Ever since they went X-Server, everyone felt that they were entitled to everything in the game. The challenge level dropped, CC was taken out and bads ruled the Azeroth. The biggest complaint was people crying about how raids were inaccessible. Nothing was inaccessible, people just didn't want to put any effort in. As for Star Wars if you, and i don't mean you personally, have not met at least 3 friends for doing FP's, then you might be the problem, not the game. Like C'mon, for a game to boast to have 10 million plus players and no one can find a group, well excuse me while I laugh
I can see you haven't played WoW in a while.

Also, people do meet friends and join Guilds in TOR. Doesn't mean those people are always available when YOU want to run a particular FP or OP. Same for WoW. Many people don't understand that LFD tools are a backup system. Of course people are going to take friends and Guildies first. LFD is there to fill up the rest of your party. PLayers are more than welcome to SPAM General chat to fill in that space but why would they when LFD can do it in seconds/minutes.
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Valkirus
05.10.2012 , 07:22 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
You should look up the definition of the word compromise, because that's not it.

I'm still amazed at the amount of people who opt to play an MMO and then only want to play with a very small fraction of the playerbase.
End of the day, Cross-Server Group Finder has been successful for other MMO's that used it. How do I know it was successful?

People used it.

If so many people hated it, they wouldn't use it. Fact.

If so many people cared about server community, they would maintain one beyond Cross Server LFG's implimentation. Fact.

Nay-sayers may decry this as false, but I'm afraid common sense prevails here. If people cared about something, they'd do it and if they didn't like something they wouldn't use it.
Well said. I think more is going on here than just the hatered about a cross server LFG tool with the fear for the health of the community. Like you said, you donot like it, donot use it. But with some...it may be they know they will lose some of the grip they have on others as for when and how they enjoy thier play times. Because I think deep down they know most will use it.
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netskink
05.10.2012 , 07:49 AM | #66
I am not sure if LFG is good. If LFG tool is used and it has the following considerations, perhaps it will work:

o considers /ignore. I don't want to q twice with the same jerk.
o you can be in a pvp q and a pve q at the same time.
o there is an incentive for joining the group from the beginning to end. If you initiate a vote kick you lose any rewards. I can not tell you how many times, I participated in a group in wow only to make it to a final boss and be kicked by jerks. In fact, I quit using LFG between 3pm est and 7pm est due to kids. Later I quit wow altogether.

I like to play multiple toons, I read the forums both here and elsewhere, I craft my own loot, I understand class mechanics. During wow, I watched videos and read forum posts on how to defeat particular bosses. I spent a lot of time explaining boss fights to complete strangers. I used the readycheck. I used potions, I used medpacks. Maybe it took longer to explain and I took it slow, but I wanted to complete the instance. Too often kids wanted to just roll thru content and die and try again. They would not have good gear, use potions or even medpacks. They would say they knew the fight and still stand in fire or get cleaved by standing in front of the boss. People (perhaps all are not kids) would abuse and grief the system.

I will never forget a heroic I was kicked from during Cata that was brand new. My pals and I had q'd together for it. The boss mechanics had been changed from what they were during bc and thus the encounters were not quite the same. The guides were not even up to date. Not to mention everytime you died, you could not get into the instance, due to server not available messages. Anyway, my two pals had run out of time and they left. Even one of the original people who was working with us to complete it had quit. So luckily I thought we got three new people. These three were all it took to vote kick me out. I had spent the entire day struggling with a new encounter, buggy instance mechanics and in the end wasted my entire playing time.

I'll be honest with you, I will probably not participate in a lfg. I would rather wait until my friends are all available and ready and do it then. I've said it before and I will say it again. Your friends list and your guild list is the best LFG tool available. FWIW, I have one friend who still plays wow, for years he has only done heroics with guild mates. He refuses to join heroics unless its a full guild run. This guy is super geared and as hardcore as they get.
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Gimixes
05.10.2012 , 08:54 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Darkulous View Post
I can see you haven't played WoW in a while.

Also, people do meet friends and join Guilds in TOR. Doesn't mean those people are always available when YOU want to run a particular FP or OP. Same for WoW. Many people don't understand that LFD tools are a backup system. Of course people are going to take friends and Guildies first. LFD is there to fill up the rest of your party. PLayers are more than welcome to SPAM General chat to fill in that space but why would they when LFD can do it in seconds/minutes.
Maybe because Wow has become a joke, that why he didnt play it that much.
I wonder why people here wants to make swtor a joke with all their things..

LFG
ofc LFO (operations)
Nerf nerf otherwise it will be to difficult for lots of them
Fly mounts
What next? Portals everywhere?
And then? Rolling new alts which must be at least 30? 40? higher?
Group summon?
Mass res?

In the end this all will happen because of the lazy/impatient whiny folks keeps asking/begging...

Shall we ask Blizzard to put a new heroic class who can use lightsabers? Then BW can skip all those tools to fookup the game.

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Skirata_Kal
05.10.2012 , 08:57 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by pureeffinmetal View Post
12 of you quit because there was no LFG tool? You can form three, 4 man groups and one 8 man group with the lot of you. You are a mere 4 people short of having a 16 man raiding guild......

On topic, I will welcome a LFG Tool, but I don't want to see cross server anything
You're assuming that all 12 are always on at the same time. Real Life doesn't work that way. I have a guild of about a dozen friends and family myself. We're on at the same time maybe once per week for a few hours. The rest of the time, if we want a group...we're S.O.L.
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chaosdefined
05.10.2012 , 09:04 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Gimixes View Post
Maybe because Wow has become a joke, that why he didnt play it that much.
I wonder why people here wants to make swtor a joke with all their things..

LFG
ofc LFO (operations)
Nerf nerf otherwise it will be to difficult for lots of them
Fly mounts
What next? Portals everywhere?
And then? Rolling new alts which must be at least 30? 40? higher?
Group summon?
Mass res?

In the end this all will happen because of the lazy/impatient whiny folks keeps asking/begging...

Shall we ask Blizzard to put a new heroic class who can use lightsabers? Then BW can skip all those tools to fookup the game.
So far the only person throwing tantrums here is you. Calm down with the cries of doom and maybe learn to enjoy a video game for what it is....a game.

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Skirata_Kal
05.10.2012 , 09:05 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
It may be worth dicussing but derailing someone elses topic for it, even if it's a similar topic, would be rather rude, why not make your own thread so you can tell people who don't agree with you that they are wrong.

Back on track, it has just been my experiance that the less people have to interact with others the less they care to try. Doesn't mean there aren't plenty of jerks out there already but I'de rather give honest people some incentive to stay honest.
Ummmmm the topic is the hatred toward LFG tool...which is what my comments were about (defending the idea of an LFG against the naysayers). And you're talking about jerks in the community which exist regardless of whether there's a tool or not...so who's more on topic? LMAO! If I start another thread, as you suggest, it will be closed and they'll probably politely refer to this thread. Why don't you follow your own advice and see? LOL.
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