Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

All the things you said happen right now with the exception of being able to get another group.

Side note, try calling someone out for ninja looting and watch what happens if they report you.

I have only played one game with a cross server LFG tool, and it failed so miserably, I had to join a guild just to avoid using it. Even the massively populated game that used the tool had to start bribing everyone just to use the bloody thing. The bribes then had to be upped for tanks and healers so the poor, lonely DPS' could queue up in under 35-60 minutes. When content couldn't be powered through by a group of healers, or soloed by a geared tank, queue times went up because nobody wanted to put up with a content-appropriately geared player.

It's a mindset that has already invaded this game. PUGs don't want appropriately geared people. They want people who have cleared raids to do level 50 Flashpoints. Of course, it's common to hear, "if you don't like it, join a guild", but if that's the case, and everyone was in a guild that was actually helpful, there would be no reason to have a cross server LFG. This is commonplace in themepark MMOs. People don't want their time wasted. They want to power through things. Totally understandable.

What do you do when you get a person who can't hang? Vote-kick? Heavily abused by guild groups. Get to a certain point, vote-kick the stranger, bring in guildie to hopefully get the piece off the next boss. Perhaps there is no way to get rid of a "bad" player. BRING ON THE TROLOLOLOLOLS. The people who join and just sit there, or run into mobs to pull then log out. There are no repercussions for being a jerk in random server LFG.

Almost everyone has horror stories, hence why so many fear an LFG tool like the plague. Unfortunately, without an actual ROBUST server wide LFG tool and corresponding server merges/transfers, it seems the only thing BW can do is copy Ghostcrawler's brainchild and bring on the pain.

I have only played one game with a cross server LFG tool, and it failed so miserably, I had to join a guild just to avoid using it. Even the massively populated game that used the tool had to start bribing everyone just to use the bloody thing. The bribes then had to be upped for tanks and healers so the poor, lonely DPS' could queue up in under 35-60 minutes. When content couldn't be powered through by a group of healers, or soloed by a geared tank, queue times went up because nobody wanted to put up with a content-appropriately geared player.

It's a mindset that has already invaded this game. PUGs don't want appropriately geared people. They want people who have cleared raids to do level 50 Flashpoints. Of course, it's common to hear, "if you don't like it, join a guild", but if that's the case, and everyone was in a guild that was actually helpful, there would be no reason to have a cross server LFG. This is commonplace in themepark MMOs. People don't want their time wasted. They want to power through things. Totally understandable.

What do you do when you get a person who can't hang? Vote-kick? Heavily abused by guild groups. Get to a certain point, vote-kick the stranger, bring in guildie to hopefully get the piece off the next boss. Perhaps there is no way to get rid of a "bad" player. BRING ON THE TROLOLOLOLOLS. The people who join and just sit there, or run into mobs to pull then log out. There are no repercussions for being a jerk in random server LFG.

Almost everyone has horror stories, hence why so many fear an LFG tool like the plague. Unfortunately, without an actual ROBUST server wide LFG tool and corresponding server merges/transfers, it seems the only thing BW can do is copy Ghostcrawler's brainchild and bring on the pain.

All the things you said happen right now with the exception of being able to get another group.

Side note, try calling someone out for ninja looting and watch what happens if they report you.

There is even a discussion still about the usefulness of LFG tool? Damn... everyone who thinks it's not needed should wash their brains - assuming they have any - As for now you have two choices, let me put numbers next to it so all of you LFG haters can actually see them:

1. You sit still on the fleet station and occasionally spam the general channel with DPS LFG whatever. While doing this, you are pretty much limited to sit around and get your *** bored to oblivion, maybe jump to a warzone or two when no one is responding, no dailies, no nothing. For people with work, who need to "make money" themselves and not wait for their parents to give them some, it is a waste of their -already limited - free time.

2. You flag yourself with the BWs current utterly useless LFG "tool", add a comment and wait. The problem is, that this isn't even a tool and I guarantee, that there are loads of people who doesn't even know about this "tool" being there.

Now, how would it look with the LFG tool? Again, numbers so troglodytes can see what I mean:
1. I open up a LFG window
2. I choose a Flashpoint I want to do
3. I choose my role
4. I click "start"
5. I continue playing and doing whatever I was - without wasting my godamn time!
6. I found the group
7. I can use a quick travel option to the Carrick station or I travel there myself
8. ME = a happy subscriber


People who think of some bizzare things to justify the lack of LFG tool are probably the ones, who do the flashpoints regularly with their RL friends who play this game aswell or guildies and they just dont want to make it easier for everyone, they want to be "elite". LFG tool destroying community? B.Please...

Right now I'am not doing any flaspoints with my alt (lvl 20ish) because of the "waste time" factor and I bet they will keep on loosing subs because of it.

Soooo... toggle it "OFF"...

Of cource it happen, I never said it didn't, I said that cross server groups take away any sence of accountability people might have for pulling that garbage...

It's realy a moot point since they have already said the LFG tool will not be cross server. I was just explaining my issues as asked by the OP. Trying to argue about it in a thread of this nature would be silly even if your argument was topical to begin with.

Group finder is definitely needed.

When doing missions on my trooper, I cannot spam LFG for a flashpoint on the fleet. There is no official LFG channel like General or Trade, so most people never use the custom made LFG channel.

Nobody is against group finder. They are against CROSS-SERVER group finder. Single-server group finder should be a good enough compromise.