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Why couldn't tonight's patch wait til next Tuesday?

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Why couldn't tonight's patch wait til next Tuesday?

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Lakhesis
05.10.2012 , 01:50 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Niaymh View Post
Stop making the assumption that just because you don't care about a particular issue means no one does.

You may not care about Matrix Cubes but judging from the huge number of posts on this forum about it, a lot more people do.

There are far more posts about missing Matrix Cubes than server maintenance.
By your logic Bioware should probably be doing nothing but coding server transfer options at present.

A broken variety common relic is aggravating & a flaw which hopefully will result in better patch testing in future. But it is not fundamentally game-breaking, and the trade off is an entire region being shut down during prime time versus 4 more days of a relic being unavailable.

The people who are angry about the matrix cubes were already angry, and fixing this minor issue 4 days early will not undo the harm already done. It shouldn't have happened, but now it has the natural expectation would be for it to be fixed on the next regular patch (i.e. Tuesday).

On the other hand, the anger amongst the maintenance-timezone players is doing nothing but grow every time there is yet another double-maintenance. More double maintenances are just fuel for the fire, as they continue to alienate this group of players - many of whom would have had no pressing reason for un-subbing without this mismanagement, because populations on the Oceanic servers are great.

The cost/benefit analysis just doesn't add up.
0.00008 light speed? But that's only a lousy 86,000 kph!

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sidiouswumpscut
05.10.2012 , 01:52 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Srilania View Post
They aren't that much at the lower end. But the one my powertech used, was +53 aim, +60 Endurance, +18 Defense. While not that much aded defense, that's an awful lot of aim and endurance lost. and to buy a new relic for 4 days? well, hate to burst your bubble, but there's not many that come CLOSE to this level of stats boosting. Add into that many of the ones that DO come close are also affected by the matrix cube bug, that's like suddenly your chestpiece poofing, a rakata level mods, enhances, armors in an augmented orange (that's 150k for an augmented orange tier item and about another 100k in removing all the stuff from a rakata chest, not to mention the augment itself) suddenly going poof, and someone's answer is just "suck it up and get a new chest for 4 days. quit being a baby)
So gamebreaking item noone cant deal with for a week? I've dealt with a few months of not being able to play content due to bioware's failing to cosolidate servers, didn't break the game for me and I was able to work around it. A week, datacron matrix cubes, gamebreaking item, BIG PROBLEM, LOL. People cant do thier dailies without that cube? I bet top guilds couldnt progress in HM denova this week because of matrix cube since its an item needed? Gamebreaking I cant do my dailies without a relic slot

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Srilania
05.10.2012 , 01:56 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by utio View Post
Yeah, but hasn't everyone's cube disappeared? So noone has an unfair advantage in pvp, so that rules that out. Ok, ops then? Is it impossible to do them without the cube? Nope. It could have waited.
then please. PROVE IT. take off your chestpiece or legs piece, and tank Karagga's hard or nightmare. Please, show me how I can get by with that loss.

In a fight where you have to bring your every best, gimping yourself with a loss that large can very well make the difference between success and fail. Shaddup, watch a movie, cook a cheesecake, read the news, wax some tadpoles, take a nap, something. Quite often the 4 hour maintence is less than 2. Personally, I feel with today's technology, they should be able to do it live or in 15 minutes, not an hour or 2 hours.

Let's make sure you understand the way things are and need to be.
- Bringing down the servers because someone screwed up and created a minor bug that affects 1% of the population? Not a valid reason to double patch that week.
- Bringing down the servers because someone REALLY messed up and a LOT of people are affected? Better get your butt on the fixing and get the servers back up ASAP.

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Ignicity
05.10.2012 , 01:58 AM | #54
If your running HM EC with a Matrix Cube, you're doing it wrong.

*EDIT* Also: Amount of people affected by a missing matrix cube < amount of people affected by unscheduled "emergency" maintenance.

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TheNevet
05.10.2012 , 01:59 AM | #55
To all the people that whined about matrix cubes so they took the game down again this week: go get a proc relic. they're better.

To Bioware/Lucasarts/EA: test your patches better. I've been playing since pre-launch and most of the time I'm pretty lax about the the downtime, but two patches a week is getting old.

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JediZenn
05.10.2012 , 02:02 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by ConradLionhart View Post
To put things into perspective, WoW had 8 hours of maintenance last Tuesday.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4877377912

SW:TOR only had less than 4. With today's maintenance, it will still be less than WoW's maintenance for this week.
Perspective?

Whats the player base and server difference between these two games again? Was it 7 million? Yeah, I think it was.

Lawl, perspective.

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Athraku
05.10.2012 , 02:02 AM | #57
My question is how come when they fk some thing up they are unable to hot fix like WoW and down the server's for 5-30mins..... Is their game that much of a pig that it needs to be taken down for 4hours+ (It says 4+ but really its norm 2-3hrs) to apply a small update / fix?

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JediNg
05.10.2012 , 02:04 AM | #58
IIRC mission items too could disappear. Enough with the cubes. its not only about the cubes.
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Ignicity
05.10.2012 , 02:14 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by JediNg View Post
IIRC mission items too could disappear. Enough with the cubes. its not only about the cubes.
Any particular items? 'Cause all I've heard on the forums is: Matrix Cube Waaaaah!

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Tielee
05.10.2012 , 02:20 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by tormentau View Post
it will most likely say

- we fixed the matrix cube
- everyone has lost their weapon slot
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