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PvP Food Chain


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Motoeric
05.10.2012 , 01:29 AM | #51
I find the OP to be grossly accurate.

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ekaikaforge
05.10.2012 , 01:33 AM | #52
Yes, Snipers are horrible. Please, to continue.

Leave our weak squishy useless ac alone. Thanks!

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cashogy
05.10.2012 , 01:34 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Sokee View Post
Answer to what? His answer is dont solo anything, have a healer in your pocket.
and you think that is bad advice?

this game is NOT based on 1v1 combat. it is based on TEAM PLAY. you are a fool if you dont have a healer in your pocket, or a good pvp tank by your side.
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Astarica
05.10.2012 , 01:45 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Wikar View Post
Putting Sorcs at 4th place means you are judging mostly by pug-matches, when all what people do is fighting with the closest in melee range opponent.

Since you just can't resist to put your biggest hit in match on that super-squishy almost nodefence and zero damage reduction Sorc (as soon, as he have spint on CD). And if he bubbled, well, bad for you - you need to press two big damaging skills instead of one .

I would put Sorcs in "competentive patch 1.2 PvP" a little over Mercs, just because Mercs even did't have some kind of sprint.

Anyway, let's see hows ranked warzones will go, i think we will clearly see full PvP-food-chain within a month of rankeds.
It's not that Sorc are outright weak but that game mechanics favors abusing Sorcs for all the top DPS classes. Because they're the lowest defense class in the game by a large margin, they're the perfect target to attack first to see how the enemy's healers respond. The top DPS classes can almost match the healing output of another healer when attacking a Sorc, so if the top DPS notice the Sorc is actually being healed, they will just keep attacking that guy knowing that they can do DPS and neutralize heals at the same time. And of course if you don't heal the Sorc, the top DPS class don't mind getting a free kill. It's not the prize they're looking for (another top DPS or a healer) but it's still a good way to open up a fight.

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TiTaNsFaN
05.10.2012 , 02:32 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy View Post
and you think that is bad advice?

this game is NOT based on 1v1 combat. it is based on TEAM PLAY. you are a fool if you dont have a healer in your pocket, or a good pvp tank by your side.
lol the old WoW (or insert generic mmo) argument that the game is based around "teamwork" and not 1v1. You people are delusional that there is an semblance of balance in this game.

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Rikeryo
05.10.2012 , 02:37 AM | #56
not sure if op is srs or clueless
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cashogy
05.10.2012 , 02:39 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by TiTaNsFaN View Post
lol the old WoW (or insert generic mmo) argument that the game is based around "teamwork" and not 1v1. You people are delusional that there is an semblance of balance in this game.
did i say that the game was perfectly balanced? no, it is as far from balanced right now than it ever has been.

but the intention of the developers was for the game to be balanced around team play. every class cannot be the equal of every other class; in order to be as effective as possible you need your teammates. each class has strengths and weaknesses, and it takes team play to minimize those weaknesses.

if you wan to be a 1v1 warrior thats fine. but do not pretend that 1v1 is for anything other than measuring epeens.
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silvershadez
05.10.2012 , 02:54 AM | #58
Haha your list gave me a laugh when i saw sniper as the worst class. It's those posts that make people underestimate my gunslinger. Really appreciated.

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Slashtwo
05.10.2012 , 03:05 AM | #59
Lemme just leave this hurr.
DPS/Tanks

Tank Sin
Marauder
Sniper
Pyrotech Powertech
Juggernaut
Sorc
Operative
Merc

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Slashtwo
05.10.2012 , 03:06 AM | #60
Now that I think about it I might place sniper /gunslinger above pyro pt
and tank sin above marauder.