SWTOR: Lacking in appeal for the casual gamer?

I left wow when I turned into a casual, because I didnt feel the casual game that you speak about.

Casual does not mean dumb btw. Casual is more a factor that indicates that someone cant play every day, wont read every guide and also wont always have the best items in a game. I sometimes have gaps of a few weeks where I cant play at all, with that I was lost at wow.

If you dont play a while, the demands even for old content double or triple.

I went into heroic 5 mens after a break on my second char, those dungeons we did clear 1 week after release easily with greens and blues. Guess what happened, people raged at the gear, raged at no achivements...simply put they did not accept it! They did also not accept the round about 12k dps of a friend, who did as well clear every hc with me. No what they did demand were 20k dps, the ability to outheal noobish dps that stands in fire...

Yes wow is a easy game, you dont need much for it - but the lack of skill that you need, does the community of elitist´s add and thats hardcore and nothing less. Casuals have absolutely no time, especially if you use the LFG tool. People hear "new", see "not full epics", no achivements and they rage at you - no casual does want that torture and because of that so many casuals left wow.

A new player who joins wow is put infront of lions, that dont give him any chance to learn or discover. Even at simple lvl dungeons you are treaten like **** at wow...

SWTOR is definately better there, but who knows what the LFG tool and dps meters will turn it into.

They have been given SWTOR

For now, but they started leaving months ago and they're still leaving. Who here honestly believes there are 1.3 million active players today? It's funny how people call this game a Themepark MMO or a MMO for Casuals. This game has NO FEATURES! Casuals need features. Hardcores need continous content. BW has been favoring the Hardcores more then casuals since release. Hardcores got more content. Exactly what features have Casuals been given? ZERO.

Can you give a small example of the kind of features that a causal player would want? Right now most (IMO) causal players don't have issues with the game, it's mostly those "hardcore" endgame players.

Hi My Name is Beyorn and I am….A Casual /cry.

After seeing some of these responses I wanted to add a few things.
I do wish the game was more casual than it is now. That is going to fly in the face of some people so let me explain. I have a full time job, take care of a family and look after my 72 year old mother. This is while doing house chores/paying bills (all the fun things). As a onetime hardcore player (committed to a raid guild/times all that) I find it really frustrating that I will never be able to get gear better than comm gear.

I can’t commit to a guild, sadly I don’t know when I will be able to log on from day to day and when I do get on I don’t know if everyone will leave me alone long enough to find a group or I may have to leave 15 mins into the flashpoint. So instead of subjecting others to my play time (or lack thereof) I mostly solo, which gets old really quick once you hit 50. I truly wish someone would come up with something that would be a fun endgame for people like me.

Devs: Grinding for credits and gear like I have to do at 50 isn’t fun. Especially when you have about 2 to 3 hours a night at most. I guess really I need to move on and play single player games. I just hate to though. I really love multi-player games and have been enjoying them for the past 10 years. You can’t help people you run by with buffs or heals in a single player game. You can’t help someone when they have bitten off more than they can handle in a single player game. Finally the most fun I have playing is doing drive-by healing. I have usually healed them to full before they know what is happening. I try to work it so they don’t see me and by the time they realize what has happened I’m long gone.

If a dev is reading this please take into account your casual player base. Im not asking for freebies ;(.

I just love the IP too. Dammit. Real life sucks!!!

I'll just name one because it's the most important. X-Server LFD. Casuals are not gonna sit in fleet for hours.

Can you give a small example of the kind of features that a causal player would want? Right now most (IMO) causal players don't have issues with the game, it's mostly those "hardcore" endgame players.

Actually, that's what the hardcores want so they can farm. The end