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SWTOR: Lacking in appeal for the casual gamer?

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SWTOR: Lacking in appeal for the casual gamer?

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Icysunx
05.09.2012 , 06:21 PM | #31
The reason SWTOR is lacking for casual gamers is because they just don't have time to continually reroll characters when their server dies.

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Jett-Rinn
05.09.2012 , 06:27 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Vampirius View Post
In WOW you can log in and do a raid on your lunch break. You can do up to 4 dungeons.

Guid Wars you can log in and have a max level character in a few seconds... do a few battles on your lunch, and log out.

These are the games we compare SWTOR, and you are saying SWTOR is more casual? How so? This past weekend I ran the Esseles. It took an hour. I wanted to do a quick run before work. I was almost late.

The issue is that most of the developers are admitted hardcore progression raiders...they will keep trying to areal to that base, despite the fact that base hates their guts.
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HisShadowX
05.09.2012 , 06:53 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Vampirius View Post
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...s-leaving-game

Upon reading this, I became a little disenfranchised with the way management is treating SWTOR. As a company, any business that involves customers should take the stance not to blame customers, ever. When you blame the consumer, you end up with a dead product.

Moreover, I do believe that SWTOR needs more features to appeal to casual MMO players. An MMO is a hard thing to make. You need to appeal to a wide audience, from most casual to most hardcore. The wider the appeal, the more popular the game will be. What do you guys think of this?
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Darth_Sinistor
05.09.2012 , 06:58 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Vampirius View Post
.... In WOW you can log in and do a raid on your lunch break. You can do up to 4 dungeons.

Guid Wars you can log in and have a max level character in a few seconds... do a few battles on your lunch, and log out.

These are the games we compare SWTOR, and you are saying SWTOR is more casual? How so? This past weekend I ran the Esseles. It took an hour. I wanted to do a quick run before work. I was almost late.
I agree. 100%.

I recently unsubbed from TOR and went back to WoW.

My God. It was like a tall, cool glass of water to a man dying of thirst.

As soon as I logged in I ticked the little box that said "DPS", then pressed the little button that said "Find Group".

Within five minutes I was in a dungeon. Five minutes.

But as an added bonus there were some flagged Alliance outside Orgrimmar, so for that five minutes I was able to enjoy some pvp (as opposed to TOR where I encountered my first Republic player out side a WZ at level 25. On Tatooine. The FIFTH planet I visited.)

I did enjoy some aspects of TOR, but the lack of a cross-server LFG tool, sub-par pvp and lackluster racial choices (c'mon Bioware - let us play something more iconic than different skinned humans already!) mean unfortunately I am done here, which saddens me because I am a HUGE Star Wars fan and have been for over thirty years.

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Blazenor
05.09.2012 , 07:05 PM | #35
Casual players are the ones supporting this game right now.
What did the poster below me just say?!?!?!

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Barleigh
05.09.2012 , 07:17 PM | #36
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EA boss John Riccitiello : "So the percentage of paying subscribers from our peak until now has actually gone up, and the folks that we have are as engaged as they were when they first bought the product."
What does this mean exactly? That the numbers they reported as subscribers in the first report was...wrong? fudged? Different definition of paying?

How does one say 1.7M subscribers earlier, 1.3M subscribers later, and the percent of paying subscribers has gone up? That only means to me that the hyped up 1.7 million was incorrect =P

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Skidrowbro
05.09.2012 , 07:17 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Blazenor View Post
Casual players are the ones supporting this game right now.
We are the majority but that all depends on your definition of casual

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Darkulous
05.09.2012 , 07:18 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Blazenor View Post
Casual players are the ones supporting this game right now.
For now, but they started leaving months ago and they're still leaving. Who here honestly believes there are 1.3 million active players today? It's funny how people call this game a Themepark MMO or a MMO for Casuals. This game has NO FEATURES! Casuals need features. Hardcores need continous content. BW has been favoring the Hardcores more then casuals since release. Hardcores got more content. Exactly what features have Casuals been given? ZERO.
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Skidrowbro
05.09.2012 , 07:19 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Darkulous View Post
Exactly what features have Casuals been given? ZERO.
They have been given SWTOR

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Darkulous
05.09.2012 , 07:24 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Sinistor View Post
I agree. 100%.

I recently unsubbed from TOR and went back to WoW.

My God. It was like a tall, cool glass of water to a man dying of thirst.
You're right on dude. Going from a featureless MMO to a MMO loaded with features is exactly how you described it. I mean, you can't even get a whisper option from right clicking a person on the Guild roster. You can't shift click an item onto the search bar on the GTN. TOR isn't just missing the big features, it's missing all the small ones too. It's ridiculous.
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