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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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PuntaSur
05.08.2012 , 10:26 PM | #931
I'm done.

I try and try and try to LFG to do Flashpoints while sitting around doing NOTHING in the Fleet, only to logout 30 mins later in frustration.

I'm unsubscribing until a LFG Tool is implemented to assist with formation and queuing of FP groups. PVP has one, so why can't there be one for PVE?!!

Yeah I did Alts as well. Guess what? They end up sitting around looking for FPs as well (at all levels). Basically it's just a solo experience without an LFG Tool. Guilds don't solve this issue either. Even our relatively large and busy guild doesn't provide the so called "community" needed for group FPs as getting folks together to do things at the same time doesn't work well.

Lame.

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Mustelidaen
05.08.2012 , 11:09 PM | #932
Quote: Originally Posted by PuntaSur View Post
I'm done.

I try and try and try to LFG to do Flashpoints while sitting around doing NOTHING in the Fleet, only to logout 30 mins later in frustration.

I'm unsubscribing until a LFG Tool is implemented to assist with formation and queuing of FP groups. PVP has one, so why can't there be one for PVE?!!

Yeah I did Alts as well. Guess what? They end up sitting around looking for FPs as well (at all levels). Basically it's just a solo experience without an LFG Tool. Guilds don't solve this issue either. Even our relatively large and busy guild doesn't provide the so called "community" needed for group FPs as getting folks together to do things at the same time doesn't work well.

Lame.
I'm sick of the complaints about there not being a LFG tool.

Server mergers and LFG tools by themselves will NOT revitalize SWTOR. Why? There is no INCENTIVE to sign in and do anything frequently, especially for 50s. Looking for group to do WHAT that is worth while???

You combine two servers with people who don't have incentive to sign in at least daily, and you end up with NOTHING new.

What you need to do is provide that incentive. And you need it quick. So, do like WoW does, and make the HM FP daily quest worth doing. Many people have skipped some or all of the HM FPs...most them who have done HM FPs have done BT a zillion times over just to get the daily done. And no wonder people are bored!

You must up the ante for doing HM flashpoints. This would add huge incentive to do them. The HM daily quest reward should be increased and scaled to the difficulty of the heroic completed--and should include Rakata and Black Hole tokens as appropriate:

The Black Talon: Keep as-is, "LFG quick daily BT HM" in General Chat makes my stomach turn!
Boarding Party: Add 1 Rakata token
The Foundry, Directive 7: Add 2 Rakata token
The Battle of Ilum, The False Emperor, Kaon under Siege: Add 1 Black Hole token
Lost Island: Add 2 Black Hole token

If people log in daily, it will help revitalize the economy as well.

I'm sorry, but I am puzzled by all the people claiming that mergers and/or a LFG tool will fix things.

What I describe is a QUICK and effective fix. It would take the developers a few days. No waiting until 1.3.

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JeramieCrowe
05.08.2012 , 11:57 PM | #933
Quote: Originally Posted by Mustelidaen View Post
I'm sick of the complaints about there not being a LFG tool.

Server mergers and LFG tools by themselves will NOT revitalize SWTOR. Why? There is no INCENTIVE to sign in and do anything frequently, especially for 50s. Looking for group to do WHAT that is worth while???

You combine two servers with people who don't have incentive to sign in at least daily, and you end up with NOTHING new.

What you need to do is provide that incentive. And you need it quick. So, do like WoW does, and make the HM FP daily quest worth doing. Many people have skipped some or all of the HM FPs...most them who have done HM FPs have done BT a zillion times over just to get the daily done. And no wonder people are bored!

You must up the ante for doing HM flashpoints. This would add huge incentive to do them. The HM daily quest reward should be increased and scaled to the difficulty of the heroic completed--and should include Rakata and Black Hole tokens as appropriate:

The Black Talon: Keep as-is, "LFG quick daily BT HM" in General Chat makes my stomach turn!
Boarding Party: Add 1 Rakata token
The Foundry, Directive 7: Add 2 Rakata token
The Battle of Ilum, The False Emperor, Kaon under Siege: Add 1 Black Hole token
Lost Island: Add 2 Black Hole token

If people log in daily, it will help revitalize the economy as well.

I'm sorry, but I am puzzled by all the people claiming that mergers and/or a LFG tool will fix things.

What I describe is a QUICK and effective fix. It would take the developers a few days. No waiting until 1.3.
So, when everyone gets their tokens sooner than designed, where's the population that will do them after that for the up-and-comers?

Carrot on a stick my friend. Give the carrot too soon, and it's gone.
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Skirata_Kal
05.09.2012 , 12:06 AM | #934
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
LFG tool with an X-server toggle, people.

Don't know why we're still arguing when we should be teaming up now to ask BioWare for it. The community is split enough on this for it to work. No need to be afraid that too many people would toggle X-server "OFF" and you won't get a group.
Consider me signed on JC! Though I might still reply to the occasional person who says LFG isn't needed/kills communities etc.
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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chaosdefined
05.09.2012 , 03:10 AM | #935
I still can't get over is that there are still people saying we don't need an automated LFG (Single or Cross server) and then we find out the game has lost 25% of its subscribers...

Suppose that's just a coincidence then?

Not saying lack of a decent LFG tool is the main reason for so many people having left, but it's certainly a contributing factor.

People can stay blind to the problems, doesn't mean they're not there.

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Skidrowbro
05.09.2012 , 07:16 AM | #936
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
I still can't get over is that there are still people saying we don't need an automated LFG (Single or Cross server) and then we find out the game has lost 25% of its subscribers...

Suppose that's just a coincidence then?

Not saying lack of a decent LFG tool is the main reason for so many people having left, but it's certainly a contributing factor.

People can stay blind to the problems, doesn't mean they're not there.
So SWTOR lost 25% of people who needed to be handheld, not a big loss.

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Valkirus
05.09.2012 , 07:22 AM | #937
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
I still can't get over is that there are still people saying we don't need an automated LFG (Single or Cross server) and then we find out the game has lost 25% of its subscribers...

Suppose that's just a coincidence then?

Not saying lack of a decent LFG tool is the main reason for so many people having left, but it's certainly a contributing factor.

People can stay blind to the problems, doesn't mean they're not there.
I beleave it is a main reason. Not the only one..but right up there at the top of "Reasons not to resub to TOR".
Trust is something which is earned.

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chaosdefined
05.09.2012 , 07:26 AM | #938
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
I beleave it is a main reason. Not the only one..but right up there at the top of "Reasons not to resub to TOR".
Well it was certainly the main reason for a few people I've known who quit. They were in a Guild but on a quiet server, and so it was difficult to get a group. They rolled on a busier server and then were faced with the problem of trying to get a mid-level group and so just got bored of it.

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Valkirus
05.09.2012 , 07:28 AM | #939
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
So SWTOR lost 25% of people who needed to be handheld, not a big loss.
I know, you keep saying crap like that. I am sure BioWare cares. Good thing you donot work for them.

On a side note...this Sat evening...at prime time I used what you call a good LFG tool such as flagging myself as : "Looking for group for any level 50 Flashpoint" waited for a hour and never got a single bite. The only other one on Fleet, who said anything about wanting to run a Flashpoint, was a player who wanted to run a lower one. This is what is killing this game. It is great fun leveling, experencing the story line..etc....but once you hit 50, your done with that char. Worth the purchase price to play as KOTOR3, but in it's present state, not worth a monthly sub, month after month.
Trust is something which is earned.

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ratfanatic
05.09.2012 , 07:31 AM | #940
If they don't add a robust LFG tool then this game will be down to less than half a million subs in 4 months. The Legacy patch sucked. They should have started focusing on server merges and LFG 3 months ago. BioWare is going to destroy their own game if they don't wake the hell up. I'm not even logging in anymore because I can't run the game's content. If they don't do something about it then they will lose me as a sub as soon as my free month runs out.
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