If SWTOR lost 70% of its subs.....

no, he was purposely exaggerating to underline a simple idea:

numbers do matter. the more people will unsub, the more will follow for various reasons, least the perception of a failed product.

at least that's what i get from his post...

Haha oh man... /facepalm

Well, the hardcore raiders and about half the PvPers are gone. Get ready for the exodus of the lemmings...

I'll keep playing until a) the game shuts down, or b) I no longer like the game. And then I'll go find something else to do for fun.

You must have also learned the old version of English when you attended "Collage" (love the capitalization as well).

All kidding aside, I was just trying to make a point through exaggeration, like the above posted said.

I also liked your Mos Eisely and Dantooine reference

If WSTOR lost 70% of it's subs there would be massive restructuring. Probably a move to F2P with lots of stupid microtransactions. Though terrible, evil and a game ruiner this usually increases profits by literally several times over.

At which point games usually stop doing decent updates. If you thought 1.2 was bad any updates while they focus on changing the system is 100x worse. Take Star Trek Online for example. They switched and it took them a year of focusing on the switch to actually DO IT. They didn't release a content patch for like a freakin' year. I'm not saying it would take that long (STar Trek Online also had the issue of switching ownership several times during it's lifetime) but I'd expect quality of patches and number of patches to slow down.


New content for this game probably costs too much money. I'd imagine it's because of the voice acting. This would also probably make it take longer to actually make that content. I'm wondering if it's worth it.

because of course it makes sense, both of them being Planets... or Citties... whatever ;-)

in order to put this community down.

this game just needs to shutter the servers and move on. Its tireless and committed team of trolls and complainers have this game on their cross hairs. i mean you have people literally COMBING the internet for anything bad and then posting it here.

and no matter how crappy any new game released will be. TOR will still continue to carry the full brunt of these people's hatred. GW2 sucks? blame TOR TSW sucks? blame TOR.

until this game has nothing left in it. then and only then will people leave it alone and move the hate train onward.

Being profitable, and being profitable while putting out awesome new content are not the same thing.

Quote: Originally Posted by Gibbzter

If subs dropped to 500,000 you would have the fanboys in here saying "500,000 is still a good amount for a new mmo".

500K subs is BW's break even baseline and BW is doing everything they can to get there--from the nerfing of the classes by devs who do not at all play the game so they don't have a clue as to how the class actually functions to taking the system down to deploy a patch that should have been pushed out during the regular maintenance downtime so people lose 2 days of game play for the 3d time in 4 or 5 weeks...the 3 Stooges could run this show better than the current crop of incompetent flunkies--there is absolutely no valid excuse to take the system down again, none whatsoever. WE PAY TO PLAY, IF THE SYSTEM IS DOWN THAT MEANS WE CAN'T PLAY BUT WE WON'T GET ANY PLAYTIME GIVEN BACK TO US...I'm not sure what it is about this concept BW does not understand especially when the patches are fixing nothing that's gamebreaking...this is just inexcusably ridiculous...

$7.5 million a month with 500,000 subs sounds good to me, and $120 million msrp on initial sales...

i'm sure they'll sleep fine tonight.