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Stealth planting ruining PVP

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Stealth planting ruining PVP

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TitusVorenus
05.08.2012 , 12:42 PM | #41
I saw this happen to our team yesterday.

It was even more infuriating because we actually did have people by the door, throwing up stealth detection--but in the area in front of the door, not directly on the door itself. At no point did any enemy get anywhere near the door--we were holding them off well--until suddenly we were stealth-planted.



For those of you saying "L2P stealth is a mechanic"--yes, it IS a legitimate mechanic in the broader gameplay of PvP, but it is a known, stated fact that you are not supposed to be able to plant a bomb while stealthed. Call it a bug or call it an exploit, but it is not supposed to happen..
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Mechrophilia
05.08.2012 , 12:43 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Agreed this is no different than Rogues or Druids in wow stealthing up to the flag in WSG...
100% wrong

In WoW, you can stealth up to the flag, but clicking on the flag to pick it up initiates a channeling effect that unstealths you, making you interruptable.

The problem here is not stealth itself. Its the fact that the stealther is not becomming visible during the channeling portion of the bomb setting.

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Acherom
05.08.2012 , 12:44 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Ah ...I really didn't see that in the vid.

So I will agree with you.

But, there is stealth detection on Powertech(Pyrotech) for Imperials and Vanguard(Assault Specialists) for the Republic. I thought people were complaining about not being able to have a chance at countering the stealth player.

Please watch the video again, the culprit is not a stealth class. At the 28 second mark a juggernaught runs out from behind the door that blew up at the 25 second mark. He capped the door from the next room due to a bug that sometimes causes attackers to spawn a room further along then they really are.

The bug that needs to be fixed is players respawning at the wrong location.
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Tfranco
05.08.2012 , 12:45 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Rutrict View Post
I quit playing Voidstar specifically for this reason, if it shows up when I am PvPing, I just leave. It's not worth the frustration. There is fair and there is unfair, and that is an unfair advantage.

If you ask me it's the same in WoW as a DK using raise undead ( the 5 ghoul one ). There are certian abilities that shouldn't be used in PvP, stealth is one of them. You're there to fight, not run away like a little *****. Tactic my ***.
Lol ur post made me laugh so hard when I read it. U do realize stealth is a GAP CLOSER primarily in killing and in mechanics it's a movement tool. What will u say next? No more heals? No more charging or pulling? No more ranged? No more cries? Don't PvP if stealthers bug u....
As for ur dk issue.....u obviously got butt hurt by a dk or something army has a 10min cd and can be easily kited/feared/killed. You obviously have an issue with learning new mechanics

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cycao
05.08.2012 , 12:47 PM | #45
Yeah noticed this as well. I was in a game and was tasked to guard a door. I keep my camera locked on it then all of a sudden I see it turn and everyone on my team is like *** call it out next time. I was in vent and running with our premade. I was not pleased, needless to say we lost as this was in the first minute of the game.

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Masturomenos
05.08.2012 , 12:48 PM | #46
Please never put that song on a video you post again. I literally threw my phone when i heard it missing the video the first time.

Thats a weird exploit since you cant plant a bomb in stealth normally. You cant even start the plant. You have to manual turn off cloak and then start to plant a bomb, cap a node or grab the hutbal. So anyone able to plant a bomb and stay in stealth or start to plant it and not break stealth until its almost done is a exploit.

Stealth is not the issue here its the exploit they use. Which is probably the same program used to do all the other exploits that change theway the info u send to the game is received and vice versa.

Please people saying nerf stealth just stop it doesnt make you look smart. Stealth has been in mmos since the beginning of mmos. Its not gamebreaking. What are we just taking abilites from all classes now we dont like. Common. If you knew anything then ud want stealth. Since it can be broken then u should focus on learning how to do that because if you break a stealther out of stealth u win 100% of time if you know what u r doing since without hving the jump on u then u have the advantage since as a non stealth class u dont lose any edge or opener since all urs are based on not being in stealth.

Whats next nerf jump? Ah man this dude was jumping its unfair.
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cs_Kimmo
05.08.2012 , 12:49 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Tfranco View Post
Lol ur post made me laugh so hard when I read it. U do realize stealth is a GAP CLOSER primarily in killing and in mechanics it's a movement tool. What will u say next? No more heals? No more charging or pulling? No more ranged? No more cries? Don't PvP if stealthers bug u....
As for ur dk issue.....u obviously got butt hurt by a dk or something army has a 10min cd and can be easily kited/feared/killed. You obviously have an issue with learning new mechanics
His main issue in Voidstar was people planting the bomb without breaking stealth, not stealth itself. You'd realize that if you read the first sentence of his post.
On a side note, your English writing skills are beyond terrible, you might want to work on those.

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Acherom
05.08.2012 , 12:49 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Mechrophilia View Post
100% wrong

In WoW, you can stealth up to the flag, but clicking on the flag to pick it up initiates a channeling effect that unstealths you, making you interruptable.

The problem here is not stealth itself. Its the fact that the stealther is not becomming visible during the channeling portion of the bomb setting.
Wrong.

There is another player contesting the door from the next room.

Pay attention to the video, 25 second mark: door blows. 28 second mark: a juggernaught runs in from the next room to delay people. It would have been impossible for him to respawn and get to the door in that amount of time unless he was already behind the door. Meaning: He contested it from the next room where no one could see him. Due to a bug that can cause attackers to spawn to far along even if the doors are still up.

Report the proper issue so whats really wrong can be fixed.
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Tfranco
05.08.2012 , 12:50 PM | #49
I wasnt defending exploits, I was defending stealthers the person I quoted wanted stealth removed period. The exploit is dumb and in the vid he had plentynofmtime to get on it. 1 stealthers cant defend the bomb vs 5+ people he should blame the videos loss on his team. BUT I do see the issue and it needs to be death with. For now just adapt to the exploit and pay more attention to doors.

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Lugosi
05.08.2012 , 12:52 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Screaming_Ziva View Post
So basically you admit you have absolutely no idea of how stealth mechanics work but yet you wanted to defend it anyway? Do some research next time before you start posting.
Not quite what I said. I'll work on my research skills and you can work on your reading comprehension skills and maybe we can post together again sometime. I already said I digress and I was mistaken. Would you like my home address so you can come **** on my porch? Man I hate this community sometimes.
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