The Issue with TOR and why people are leaving

Perfectly said.. +2

Well said. I only disagree with the companion part. I love that system. The PVP? I donot do it so I cannot agree or disagree. Rest of your points are right on tho.

Don't make me laugh.

I was tanking every encounter on my druid on release, no problems - add´s did tank our DK or Pally / as my bear was always the MT. The normal mode was in most cases a 1 or 2 trys fight, that did not offer anything new than the raid encounters of previous addons. If you raided there, which I did then the fight´s were a walk in the park.
HC´s were limited due the gear available, as it took a while to grind the points for it or to be able to afford the enchants - some went for 4k on my server or were not available at all.

If you had the gear together, the HC´s did again not offer much and were most of the time very easy. Exceptions like LK HC 10 men are ofc. there, but the majority of the content does not really need much.

Ofc I do have a bit more knowledge than the WOTLK gamer, but in the end it was not very fun to have content that is only repeated constantly and only hard because of some achivements that you can get for some goofy items or titles.

The constant whine you describe was of low skilled players that sorry to say, were brought to wow at WOTLK. They did not understand the simple mechanics like CC, Mana management, CR, OT, kiting etc.

As I said, wow aint so great - it really is not, atleast not anymore.

7) Game engine is terrible.

I have to agree with the OP. in WOW I was bored to death ver early on in WOTLK but I didn't want to unsub till I had killed the Lich King. For me The Frozen Throne was my 1st foray into the WOW world so I already knew the story and also you saw the Lich King everywhere whilst questing so I really wanted to kill him. After I did, I lost interest and unsubbed but the game kept me there that little bit longer even though I was already bored.

SWTOR doesn't have a hook to keep you playing and that can be a good think for all us MMO addicts as I find myself spending less time playing now. I think that if there was more to do as a guild and keep players being social and entertained then they would retain more subs. Not talking raids either. Guild ships and mini games and that sort of stuff. Would love to be able to organize a guild pazzak tournament.

On release of Cata tanking the new heroics was not a problem. But if you was trying to heal one it was. Later as healers got better gear and Blizz buffed some of thier abilities, it became easier. Then later as the dps got geared better, tanks started to fall behind some on threat. To the point Blizz offered specail rewards to get players to tank. That still was not enough, so they buffed tank threat 40% to get the tanks back to tanking again.

Seems you mostly raided in 25 man ones, which have allways been easier. And you did have the option to try running heroic 10 man Lich King for more of challenge you know. Now, heroic Dragon Soul on the Spine part esp, is very, very challenging.

Personally I can see why a lot would leave. SWTOR has issues in the customer service department. I think it's all automated myself. Personally only get generic replies saying no I can't get item back cuz there is nobody wanting to take any time to verify anything was lost. Same with son. Can lose stuff in mail or get taken by a vendor but they don't care how much of your time it wasted.

In WoW..I think best time was 5 min and longest was 4 days.
In Rift...best was about 15 min and longest 2 days.
Both of those returned the items...
SWTOR...10 days later wrong answer to ticket, 12 days later update to wrong answer..14 days later no we cant verify..then less than 2 hours to say NO! There will be no returning items when game is at fault...ok..your loss

As far as content, I have had many glitches so far...have only had game lil over a month so I'm sure there is more I haven't seen yet. I think when I went to log in there was a hotfix for matrix cubes and asking not to notify customer service that the items will be returned. As I have no clue what a matrix cube is.. I know I got lucky this time and don't have to worry about it. What I have noticed is in order to play the game, a person has to spend time on the forums looking for list of known glitches and try to avoid. Every time you send mail...you need to take a screen shot I guess...Not too sure how to prove you mail something to alt and don't get. Every time you buy from a vendor...take screen shot to show currency before and after said purchase...It's a bit much.

I cancelled my sub because of lack of "true" customer service. When glitches in the game cause you to waste hours of time and customer service blows you off, why bother? I decide how I waste my time....You can't pick up the phone and talk to a supervisor..they only take calls in the billing department..thats where the money is...everyone else has to go thru game or forums. Tried getting a supervisor thru game and it's impossible.

My point is, if I have seen this much bs already in just the first month...Not gonna pay for more of the same.

Your blatant fanboism in every single thread makes me laugh, if we are now talking about things that make us laugh.

First off, let's keep the comparison between the two games strictly to the vanilla release versions. Expansions have a specific theme to them (i.e. Illidan, Arthas, and Deathwing) whereas release is more general. WoW started with MC and BWL and their main story, but once those were cleared on a regular basis, the had to add new raids. SWTOR started with EV, and now that that has been cleared plenty, they added new ones.

Nothing is different except the mentality of gamers of 2006 and now. Back then really tough raids were just how things were and we accepted that for what it was (and most of us liked the challenge). As time went on, business kicked in and started dumbing things down to allow lesser skilled players experience the content they spent a lot of money creating. Now it's 2012 and Bioware can't revert to vanilla WoW difficulty or else it'll still lose subs to scrubs and casuals. Hence the reason for NM and HM.

IMO, people are impatient and excepted everything at once. If you think about all the things people are crying about that need to be added to the game, almost none of it existed in vanilla WoW. So why then didn't vanilla WoW suffer 25% sub losses? Think about it.