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GatorSixCharlie
05.07.2012 , 11:39 PM | #1161
Well I canceled my sub, but have several months left, (bought a six month sub + the free month they gave me)...

My server is a ghost town, my guild has gone from 50-65 active members to about 5, 2 of which are myself and my wife... (and she only plays when I do)...

Best thing they could do is roll out transfer yesterday...

I regret playing Beta, its made me jaded to this game to see so many issues not fixed still, regret buying a large subscription, but torned because I love many things about this game, but been in denial for weeks about its flaws...

For me if they just did these two things in would make me happy:

1- Give me and all my guildies server transfer to a heavy populated server, (on average we all have at least 2 level 50 toons) we are not willing reroll and start over, with Legacy why would we...

2- In-game customer service horrible... fire who ever is in charge seriously fire them or overhaul, or just look at WoW, or RIFT's in-game customer service to see how it should be done, because SWTOR's is offensively poor...

Those two things if addressed in next couple weeks will keep, me...

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Grevlin
05.07.2012 , 11:39 PM | #1162
Quote: Originally Posted by TurokDarkstar View Post
These links to "fallacies" are becoming somewhat of an internet meme. It's easier to just say, "I disagree". Anyway, I disagree and stand by what I said. They lost a hell of a lot of people without any stability in sight.
Strange, I haven't noticed that. Maybe it's just you?

You know, the reason it's a 'fallacy' is because it's incorrect on its face. There is literally no indication of a continued drop in subscribers aside from your apparent wishes. If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd like to see it.

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DarthVindictus
05.07.2012 , 11:40 PM | #1163
Quote: Originally Posted by lexiekaboom View Post
Pointless inserting fact into conversation where it will be ignored, but ...

SW:TOR cost EA 0$ to make. It was made by Bioware. It likely cost them a lot of money. EA bought bioware and got SW:TOR as part of the price.

Every dollar SW:TOR brings in is profit for EA.
I'd wager it cost EA a pretty penny in marketing.

It also cost them a pretty penny in acquiring Bioware to begin with.

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Wolfeisberg
05.07.2012 , 11:40 PM | #1164
Quote: Originally Posted by cDOC View Post
these numbers are before the 30day gift STOP USING THAT to say the number is inflated
Read my sig
How do you measure the success of an MMO?
http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-...asures-success

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JeramieCrowe
05.07.2012 , 11:40 PM | #1165
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfeisberg View Post
Read my sig. You'll find out that the 1.3 Million subs are from the end of April, so this was after the free 30 days was given, after the expansion into territories, and after the 1.2 patch.
My free 30 days hasn't taken effect yet...
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Cerion
05.07.2012 , 11:42 PM | #1166
Quote: Originally Posted by TurokDarkstar View Post
These links to "fallacies" are becoming somewhat of an internet meme. It's easier to just say, "I disagree". Anyway, I disagree and stand by what I said. They lost a hell of a lot of people without any stability in sight.
Sure it's easier, but that doesn't enlighten the user of said fallacy. The reason people link fallacies is because there are a helluva lot of poor debaters on the interwebs. So it's not a question of disagreeing...it's a question of one side being logically correct in their reasoning, and the other side being wrong. Now if you idolize irrationality, well, I guess there's nothing to be done then.
Good will always triumph because Evil is lazy.

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JeramieCrowe
05.07.2012 , 11:42 PM | #1167
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVindictus View Post
I wouldn't call cancelling a subscription on a sinking MMO to be a "crazy thing"
Really? Still with this?? How is being above the typical MMO curve, subs on target, and "very profitable" considered "sinking" in the real world we live in??

I can't believe how people will just remain pessimistic directly in the face of factual reality. It's perplexing to me, it really is. I'm not even asking you to be optimistic here! Just realistic! Wow....
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cDOC
05.07.2012 , 11:43 PM | #1168
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfeisberg View Post
Read my sig. You'll find out that the 1.3 Million subs are from the end of April, so this was after the free 30 days was given, after the expansion into territories, and after the 1.2 patch.
i retracted those statements in another post again im being lazy for not going back and editing the post. And againt its still to early to scream doomsday or great success. though actualy i will say this game is successful in comparison to other mmo's.

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GatorSixCharlie
05.07.2012 , 11:44 PM | #1169
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVindictus View Post
*sigh* I *really* prefer playing any game that involves shooting with ANYTHING other than thumbsticks to aim.

It was a pain to migrate my ME2 save files over as well.

In the end, not worth it, as the ending completely butchered the game, in fact, butchered the entire series.

It was the last Bioware game I had any expectations for.

Frankly, I was so disappointed with that game that it was one of the underlying causes that made me stop playing this game.
Your not alone in this sentiment, Bioware was trusted brand prior to ME3 ending, and I would say I would buy any game they made, now because of ME3, and SWTOR... I have changed my feelings towards their brand...

Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, still look back with fondness in regards to those games... now Bioware's Legacy/Brand is tarnished in my opinion...

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Wolfeisberg
05.07.2012 , 11:44 PM | #1170
Quote: Originally Posted by cDOC View Post
ok i stand correct o wait i dont the 30 day free play starts at the end of april since you pay at the begining of the month. though i should correct other things i said like it was not including the 38 countries or 1.2
I don't pay at the beginning of the month, my subscription renews on the 21st of each month, my brothers renews on the 26th of each month, and he is already on his free 30 days that started in April for him
How do you measure the success of an MMO?
http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-...asures-success