Subs down 25%

Heh, i hate to disagree, but there were MANY times SWTOR Devs got snarky about how they were going to revolutionize MMOs and took stabs at WoW and other MMOs.

Heh, i hate to disagree, but there were MANY times SWTOR Devs got snarky about how they were going to revolutionize MMOs and took stabs at WoW and other MMOs.

The only thing where it really "rewrites" the genre, is the sense of unspoken jolly cooperation, where you're playing WITH people around you rather than competing with them over spawns, resources, etc. Everywhere else, you see other players, even your own faction, as competition.

Did Warhammer have it so that no matter who hit the mob first, everyone who attacked the mob got exp and loot from it? Did Warhammer or Rift have it so that everyone can loot a resource node and everyone gets mats from it? Did Warhammer and Rift have it so that every class can res in combat, and in fact gets rewarded exp and public quest progress for doing so?

I didn't play either, so I don't know.. but from what I've heard, neither game conveyed a feeling of cooperation and camraderie the way GW2 does, and that in of itself, is a big change to the genre. It seems like such a natural thing to want to help other people on your side, but for a decade MMO's have conditioned you not to, that it ruins their exp without giving you any exp, etc.

Hell, here they almost had the ressing thing going on, with everyone being able to res out of combat.. then they slapped a 15 minute cooldown on it unless you were a designated holy trinity healing class. Really Bioware? Really? Does it really hurt to allow people to res each other out of combat without a cooldown?

Yes, you still got counted.

I think you are wrong, while they will report within a strict time period its common to see stats being thrown about which are neither timely accurate or relevant (to the quarterly report). The report, which I suspect not one person who has posted in this thread will ever see, will contain the information as you expect.

Are you happy with the sand in your eyes?

"REDWOOD CITY, CA – May 7, 2012 – Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: EA) today announced
preliminary financial results for its fourth fiscal quarter and fiscal year ended March 31, 2012".

Their comments about subscribers as of end of April was ancilliary to their earnings report, offered as information to investors. It was not offically part of their 4th quarter reporting.

That may depend on if they had an active paid subscription when they got the 30 days or not.

The count BW had used was always a paid subscription, not a trial.

GW2 does have some innovation and I really enjoyed the way they integrated the quests into involving adventurers in your vicinity. It did get that right from what I could see from the Beta. What is being hyped though is the other mechanics by those who don't understand how it works. During Beta there were so many people complaining about things that were never mentioned being integrated into the game mechanics but was mentioned from fan hype. It also has other issues that have to be worked out but probably won't before release date, but that is to be expected. Those hyping though will not see the problem being their hype, but the game they thought they were going to play. That is the problem. GW2 is a good game, but not the Excalibur people think.