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Brorim
05.07.2012 , 08:54 PM | #931
Quote: Originally Posted by Oddzball View Post
Until he starts providing sources his data is pure hogwash.
Exactly ..

No MMO house will ever give you the right number ,
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SithEater
05.07.2012 , 08:55 PM | #932
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostvein View Post
And this is after they launched in 38 new countries.


Edit - someone says it doesn't count. Fair enough. still down from 2.2 mil to 1.3
2.2? Last quarterly report said 1.7mil.
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JeramieCrowe
05.07.2012 , 08:55 PM | #933
Quote: Originally Posted by Oddzball View Post
THe problem with MMOData.net is you CANT verify his sources.

I see NO WHERE on that site where he lists how he comes up with his numbers.

Until he starts providing sources his data is pure hogwash.

Second, World of Tanks is more fun for me right now then SWTOR.
Why do people always fail to consider track records? Is it impossible with this crowd? Do people not realize that extrapolating with track records is accurate?

Look over mmodata.net's trends, then compare it when numbers are released, and you'll see that he's almost ALWAYS dead on.

With that kind of track record of accuracy, *** does it matter what his source is? He's always right!
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CrunkShizzle
05.07.2012 , 08:56 PM | #934
Quote: Originally Posted by Northarrow View Post
Welcome to every MMO that's not named Warcraft.

The hilarious thing is in a few weeks we'll all be having this same conversation about Tera, and in a few months about The Secret World and Guild Wars 2
you know whats gonna be funny?

when the people talking about Tera right now,relize what life is like in a korean mmo.and quit not even a day into tera

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Nywac
05.07.2012 , 08:57 PM | #935
Quote: Originally Posted by Hyryu View Post
Thank GOD it won't be the new WOW
Your right it wont be because WoW has staying power its proven itself. that being said do the math 2.4 mil units sold 1.3 million subs 49% down not 25% not saying out of those 2.4 mil there are not people that bought multiple copies but either way if any of the 1.3 mil subs still going are also multiple copy players then there are even less people than 1.3 mil playing the game. its math gotta love it.

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Dunzo
05.07.2012 , 08:57 PM | #936
Quote: Originally Posted by Hyryu View Post
Thank GOD it won't be the new WOW
You realize we're referring to it's cultural and financial success, and longevity, right?

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SithEater
05.07.2012 , 08:57 PM | #937
Quote: Originally Posted by Brorim View Post
Exactly ..

No MMO house will ever give you the right number ,
They will to investors. if they don't that's called fraud and the FCC has something to say about that. When they talk dollars they have to be as accurate as they can within their own admittedly shady math
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Brorim
05.07.2012 , 08:57 PM | #938
I'm giving TOR a year to settle in ..

They have a great dev team and a jewel of a product with all possibilities possible.
It will get much much better ..

For me 1.2 gave me the release product ..

Now it's all getting better at each patch.
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Oddzball
05.07.2012 , 08:58 PM | #939
Quote: Originally Posted by Brorim View Post
Exactly ..

No MMO house will ever give you the right number ,
Like everyone keeps quoting his data for Rift. Rift has NEVER given out their subscribers since like.. 3 months after launch.

And i quote form his own site;

C rating – Some of the datapoints may come from official or other reliable sources, many of the datapoints come from estimates, third party sources, unclear official sources or other indirect information.

Read the underlined. MMOData is completely useless because I dont see a single source like next to 90% of his stuff. Just says,

Added a new Datapoint.

Ok, based on what exactly? Oh you dont provide your sources? Welp then its worthless garabage as far as I am concerned.

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Valkirus
05.07.2012 , 08:58 PM | #940
Quote: Originally Posted by SithEater View Post
2.2? Last quarterly report said 1.7mil.
Last quarterly report?. This was the first quarterly report. Or maybe Jan, Feb, Mar is not the quarter?..but instead it is Feb, March, April?
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