Subs down 25%

How many prospective players are really gonna do the research and think "Hmm, 400K subs down... Better not buy this". Honestly? If I were a prospective player my thought process would be more along the lines of "Oooooh, it's that Star Wars game I've heard so much about. Let's give it a shot."

Even if they do the research and see that subs are down by 400K, do you really think that would be a huge deterrent? I mean, we're still kicking with more than 1million subscribers which is pretty darn impressive.

Remember, prospective players have no idea what this game offers, and there is likely a great deal of players that may relate lost subs in SWTOR in all the gloom and doom the media outlets are portraying it, as a game that is going down the same path of Aion and Warhammer.

Second, suppose they come to these forums....., do you really think they are going to get much positive feedback when the entire two pages are "I hate this game"

WoW is from a different era of MMO's (the cusp really), prior to WoW and during WoW itself, MMO's were a niche genre, they didn't sell strong at launch, and gradually built up subscribers over time, and didn't peak for years. Post WoW MMO's became mainstream, now people anticipate MMO's, they sell a ton of copies at launch, and their population falls off, rather than steadily growing.

Second, suppose they come to these forums....., do you really think they are going to get much positive feedback when the entire two pages are "I hate this game"

Top 10 Pay-To-Play MMORPGs

1) World of Warcraft
The best MMORPG yet because WoW mixes the right amount of depth and simplicity better than any other game in the history of the genre.

2) Rift
Rift has to be considered as one of the most polished MMO games since WoW. The rifts in the game are the best example of public questing so far. In fact, Rift is one of the best games to avoid grinding because there is so much for players to do.

3) Eve Online
The best sci-fi MMORPG with player-run corporations and a thriving economy.

4) Darkfall
Innovative MMO game that focuses on giving players as much freedom as possible.

5) Aion
Aion sports many of the features that made WoW a success but still retains its own personality with characters being able to fly and its PvPvE system.

6) City of Heroes/City of Villains - Game Lair
Combined, City of Heroes and City of Villains are easily the second best MMORPG for casual gamers. With the addition of the well-balanced villain types and the use of bases, City of Villains completes the potential that fans have been craving for ever since City of Heroes launched. To top it off, hardcore gamers now also have a reason to like CoH/CoV with its ultra-quick PvP.

7) Champions Online
Although Champions Online does not appear to be quite the blockbuster to send the Superhero genre to the next level, the game sports one of the best character customization tools yet. Champions Online will be going free-to-play on January 25th.

8) Dark Age of Camelot
Has usually been one the best major MMORPG for PvP combat due to its 3 realm system. Also, DAOC has remained one of the steadiest MMORPGs over the years in terms of quality. However, the game is starting to show its age and other MMOs have incorporated similar or better PvP systems.

9) DC Universe Online
Quite a simply a dream come true for comic book and super hero fans. DC Universe Online boasts quite a PvE/PvP package for a super hero-themed game.

10) Age of Conan
Mature-themed MMO with brutal combat and large-scale warfare. Also has a single-player mode in the first phase of game where each player can wreak havoc at night alone. Has lost a lot of the steam that it once had due to primarily to changes in PVP and lack of solid PvE after level 20. However, Age of Conan has recovered after a somewhat rocky start with several major improvements.

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No matter where I look I don't see SWTOR!!!!

1.3 million subs..second largest mmo. Sorry bubbas not failing anytime soon

Remember, prospective players have no idea what this game offers, and there is likely a great deal of players that may relate lost subs in SWTOR in all the gloom and doom the media outlets are portraying it, as a game that is going down the same path of Aion and Warhammer.

Second, suppose they come to these forums....., do you really think they are going to get much positive feedback when the entire two pages are "I hate this game"

No I'm just trying to understand I guess. Because something doesn't add up in my head. They were touting 1.7 million in January, February, and March, We all know that number was not current the more they talked about it. I guess what I'm getting at is saying that "as of the end of April we have 1.3 million" sounds more to me like "our most recent numbers (March 31st) show that we have 1.3 million by the end of April" considering how often they used 1.7 million as a talking point for months.

No I'm just trying to understand I guess. Because something doesn't add up in my head. They were touting 1.7 million in January, February, and March, We all know that number was not current the more they talked about it. I guess what I'm getting at is saying that "as of the end of April we have 1.3 million" sounds more to me like "our most recent numbers (March 31st) show that we have 1.3 million by the end of April" considering how often they used 1.7 million as a talking point for months.