Subs down 25%

by looking at the playing times of each person that left? Perhaps looking at the data of what kind of activities that did and how much time they spent on it?

I'm wondering that myself, but that's what they're reporting themselves.

It's a fallacy to a degree to connect units sold with subscribers. For those wondering about the strength of the game, we all just really care about subscribers, and the magic number is whether 1.3M subscribers is any good. The game launched as the fastest growing MMORPG of all-time and it's settled in as the #2 MMORPG in America. It probably is.

Regarding the units sold, it may be a hard fact to wrap one's head around for some people, but there's any number of reasons why a game may be purchased, but not "activated" at the same time. Gifts are probably a big cause of this, in some cases purchased the past several months for Christmas some 9 to 11 months later. The others that were investigated at game launch were the extreme fans buying the CE version for the other swag, and even just for that Gnost-dural book. This group's interesting. When it comes to Star Wars, there's people who will actually just buy the game because it has Star Wars on it, but may not actually ever play the game, or even open the package up. All of this grossly skews the numbers compared to less "fandom" oriented products.

lol well played sir, well played

I'm just telling you what's being reported.

If EA/BioWare considers them casuals, it's the casuals who left. Don't let it bruise your ego too hard.

ie: their term "casual" =/= the MMO players term for "casual".

Its great if that really is where the numbers are from, but where exactly does it say that? the report is for the ending of Q4 and fiscal year 12 and that is march 31st.

Edit: nm i found it.

Doing great? Dropping steadily in numbers is usually not attributed to success. Also, RIFT has been out for 14 months. From March 2011-August 2011 it had dropped 50% to 1 million subs, and now is estimated around 350k. By comparison, SWTOR is on the same track.

Please, people, think. How could a number from the end of March represent players who didn't get a free month added to their accounts until April 25th, 2012?

Come on.

1.3 millions subs, interesting .

Now I would be interested in knowing how many of these are among the free months or welcome back week.
For now the game feels more like having around 500k active subs than else. Not bad for a fair MMO but not that good for a SW one with a budget over 3 times games like Rift/AoC/Lotro....

Servers are dead and the forums are even worse.

Before leaving one thing is really wrong in EA statement: casual players cycling out. Echo base we have an issue, the casual players should be the ones sustaining the game not the hardcore ones that are burning content too fast., especially so soon after launch with no end content.

And :
Really? That's a blatant lie, 1.2 was really a mess, far from being a hit.


Anyway future will tell, at least it seems the suits are starting to listen the players feedback.