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JeramieCrowe
05.07.2012 , 05:07 PM | #581
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVindictus View Post
Because most people WANTED this game to be good, when this was announced Bioware was one of the best studios out there, and KotOR was an amazing game for its time, one of the best IPs you could hope for, a sequel to a GotY, made as an MMO...

People wanted this to succeed badly.

But it's been mismanaged.

They dun goofed.
If you can't see that the very fact that TOR has retained a higher percentage of subs than almost any other MMO to date makes it successful, I don't know what to tell ya...
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ironix
05.07.2012 , 05:07 PM | #582
Quote: Originally Posted by rduhon View Post
But weren't the only people given this free month people who already had a subscription?
No. Now I need to go through my account.

2012/04/22 5:15 AM CLOSED $ 14.99 $ 1.80 $ 16.79 ... Wait a minute here... ***?
2012/02/19 1:57 AM CLOSED $ 14.99 $ 1.80 $ 16.79
2012/01/21 3:19 AM CLOSED $ 14.99 $ 1.80 $ 16.79

What's this? Seems Bioware is doing something tricky to my account and slightly underhanded...

Now I'm pissed off, I only just discovered this. So, I cancel my account in March. On April 16th, I get an email giving me 1 week of playtime for free. So I use that playtime to PvP. Then I get an email on April 20th offering me 30-days for FREE if I resubscribe. So, I resubscribe for the free 30 days. However, seems they CHARGED me on April 22nd, but won't charge me until June 21st now...

So... Bioware charged me instantly for the free 30-days and deferred that free time to the next month... That's kind of dirty.
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JeramieCrowe
05.07.2012 , 05:08 PM | #583
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
EA has NO problem, because they've got The Secret World, it will be a blockbuster MMO which won't even need much advertising because it's great and pretty sandboxy with its single server tech concept.

BW's got the problem to make this game fun, entertaining , social and immersive.
Ugh...TSW... no thanks. Demonic crap is a turn-off.
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BCBull
05.07.2012 , 05:08 PM | #584
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
EA has NO problem, because they've got The Secret World, it will be a blockbuster MMO which won't even need much advertising because it's great and pretty sandboxy with its single server tech concept.

BW's got the problem to make this game fun, entertaining , social and immersive.
EA DOES NOT OWN FUNCOM OR THE SECRET WORLD


EA is shipping the boxes only. They own Bioware...

btw they are good at shipping boxes
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Liquidacid
05.07.2012 , 05:09 PM | #585
Quote: Originally Posted by Feralasys_ View Post
RIFT is actually staying stronge above a million.
lol rift never even made 1 million subs... it hit 600k at peak and then dropped

http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png
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Tahana
05.07.2012 , 05:09 PM | #586
Quote: Originally Posted by superpipito View Post
actually they lost more than 50% of players already cos if u check any more or less reliable source lets stay vgachartz

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/31584/s...-old-republic/

2.29 mlns sold by april 21
and now they telling us only 1.3 mlns active
Copies sold =/= paying subscriptions
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CrunkShizzle
05.07.2012 , 05:09 PM | #587
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Ravenhurst View Post
EA has NO problem, because they've got The Secret World, it will be a blockbuster MMO which won't even need much advertising because it's great and pretty sandboxy with its single server tech concept.

BW's got the problem to make this game fun, entertaining , social and immersive.
it wont need much advertisement.because everyone will already know how much of a fail it will be because of funcoms previous just epic win mmo called age of conan

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Valkirus
05.07.2012 , 05:09 PM | #588
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
If you can't see that the very fact that TOR has retained a higher percentage of subs than almost any other MMO to date makes it successful, I don't know what to tell ya...
I am glad you atleast put in the word.."allmost".
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Macroecon
05.07.2012 , 05:09 PM | #589
Quote: Originally Posted by Allagash View Post
Yes which makes it even worse than what you think.. That means that 400k people left even before they gave out a free month of gameplay. So my take on this is if you were one of those who stuck it out and got a free month, you are now calculated into the active subscription base even if you canceled a week after you got it. So basically after 1.2 bombed and everyone decided no to log in anymore and canceled it still counts as an active sub. Which would explain why your fleet is completely empty.. 400k subs lost before the free month given out.. Now how many after! Thats the real question!
Since EA/BW can claim that no subscribers were lost in April (free month), that indicates a loss of 400k subscribers in two months, or about 200k per month. At that rate of decline, the subscriber base would lose approximately another 50% of its population in the next three months. That is hands down a catastrophic event. Heads will roll if that comes to pass, if they have not already.

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Alexia-Moi-Voss
05.07.2012 , 05:10 PM | #590
Quote:
Let us give you two additional points of perspective as it relates to our current subscriber base
and its impact on our fiscal 13 guidance. First, the current number of active subscribers, 1.3
million, is very consistent with the original assumptions we made when we acquired BioWare in
2008. Second, while this franchise is very profitable, it only represents a mid-single digit
percent of our total profitability in fiscal 13.
^ page 7

this should show you that EA doesn't care about the game at all but only about the profit margin and they see it only in the single digit for their profits
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