Subs down 25%

Ok, remove "projected" from my post, and you should get the point. It's still well above the typical MMO curve.

Yes. 1.3 million is still a good number. A 25% drop is bad.

Both can be true.

RIFT is actually staying stronge above a million.

Well they do expect everyone to like creatures that when they run their ears flop like a rabbits, or to declare gnome punting as their unofficial sport..

I'm still having fun.. for now.

Yes which makes it even worse than what you think.. That means that 400k people left even before they gave out a free month of gameplay. So my take on this is if you were one of those who stuck it out and got a free month, you are now calculated into the active subscription base even if you canceled a week after you got it. So basically after 1.2 bombed and everyone decided no to log in anymore and canceled it still counts as an active sub. Which would explain why your fleet is completely empty.. 400k subs lost before the free month given out.. Now how many after! Thats the real question!

i guess the rift community must of changed since i last payed attention

i figured it would of been on the same level as sw tor's community.a bunch of whiney ex wow players

Uhhh...no.

So much for the casual argument that the hardcores are the one's who go from game to game like locusts. Guess it really is the casuals who are the fickle ones.

Because most people WANTED this game to be good, when this was announced Bioware was one of the best studios out there, and KotOR was an amazing game for its time, one of the best IPs you could hope for, a sequel to a GotY, made as an MMO...

People wanted this to succeed badly.

But it's been mismanaged.

They dun goofed.

I agree. In fact, imho, BioWare has listened TOO MUCH to players. Removing choice and consequences because players couldn't handle it? Killing their healing companion with the big bold red letters warning them that it was permanent then coming to the forums and QQing that they don't have a healing companion? BioWare listened and removed that feature. They shouldn't have.