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Irilith
05.07.2012 , 04:57 PM | #561
Quote: Originally Posted by Reaperchris View Post
what don't trolls seem to get about this? The free month was given AFTER March 31st which was the cut off date. Keep buying SWTOR accounts and paying monthly to Troll though... because you are still helping SWTOR make money.
"Through the end of the quarter, approximately 2.4 million units have sold through. In our last
call we indicated that we had 1.7 million active subscribers, and as of the end of April we now
have 1.3 million, with a substantial portion of the decrease due to casual and trial players
cycling out of the subscriber base, driving up the overall percentage of paying subscribers."



http://files.shareholder.com/downloa...Y12_Script.pdf Page 7.

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Oddzball
05.07.2012 , 04:58 PM | #562
Quote: Originally Posted by rduhon View Post
But weren't the only people given this free month people who already had a subscription?
Yes but I only KEPT my subscription because they said they were giving me a free month. Honestly, Im one of those guys who is paying and not playing anymore.

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JeramieCrowe
05.07.2012 , 04:58 PM | #563
Quote: Originally Posted by amantheil View Post
They gave ACTIVE accounts a free month. So it probably does not effect these numbers. They would have been included anyway.

25% is bad regardless.
1.3 million is good regardless.
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jgelling
05.07.2012 , 04:59 PM | #564
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
TOR subs are well above the projected and typical MMO dropoff curve. Nothing new here.
From the article:

Quote:
“In terms of the quarter, they met expectations,” said Colin Sebastian of Robert W. Baird, adding “but I don’t think anyone was expecting a 400,000 decline in ‘Star Wars’ subscribers.”

“The trend is clearly downward, and for an MMO like this, you don’t want to see a decline this early on,” Sebastian said.

Michael Pachter of Wedbush Securities said the numbers for “Star Wars” during the quarter suggest the game might “level off” at the 1-million-subscriber mark, compared to some earlier estimates of 1.5 million subscribers, “so the franchise is far less valuable.”
To say that TOR is doing better than expected is just flat-out entirely wrong. Were expectations high? Yes. Has BW failed to meet expectations? Absolutely - they've failed to meet expectations and they're doing everything possible to talk up other games, any other games, besides TOR right now.

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Kourage
05.07.2012 , 05:00 PM | #565
Subs down 25%?
Aww some people went back to WoW.
I care. I really do....


PS;
They'll be back when more content is released and improvements are made.
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Andryah
05.07.2012 , 05:00 PM | #566
Quote: Originally Posted by Irilith View Post
Rift had 2 million subs? A no name IP by a no name developer had 300k subs more than SW:Tor?
Actually, Rift peaked quickly at about 600K and has since fallen to around 250K.

Source: http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png
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CrunkShizzle
05.07.2012 , 05:00 PM | #567
Quote:
People will get quickly bored and disappointed in GW2 and TSW and will be back here in the fall... that is my prediction. More then 2 millions subs at the end of the year....
i dont know,unless swtor gets a ton more content by the time i get bored with gw2.im probably looking at more joining another mmo then coming back to sw tor

oh and by content,i mean actual content.not this cool thing called alt rolling thats legacy system

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Oddzball
05.07.2012 , 05:00 PM | #568
I suspect they have lost MORE then 400k. You have to remember they sold something like 2 million + copies at launch.

If they only have 1.3 million subs, that means they have lost 700k+ subs.

People seem to forget this.

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superpipito
05.07.2012 , 05:00 PM | #569
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Sales. Down to 500k subs (less now, actually).
But overall Rift much healthier community than TOR and Trion trying to listen to their customers not like Bioware totally ignorant... oh well

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Baneberry
05.07.2012 , 05:00 PM | #570
Quote: Originally Posted by Reaperchris View Post
what don't trolls seem to get about this? The free month was given AFTER March 31st which was the cut off date. Keep buying SWTOR accounts and paying monthly to Troll though... because you are still helping SWTOR make money.
"Through the end of the quarter, approximately 2.4 million units have sold through. In our last
call we indicated that we had 1.7 million active subscribers, and as of the end of April we now
have 1.3 million, with a substantial portion of the decrease due to casual and trial players
cycling out of the subscriber base, driving up the overall percentage of paying subscribers."

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