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Dezzi
05.07.2012 , 04:21 PM | #471
Quote: Originally Posted by Samborino View Post
I dont know if those numbers also include subs from the new 38 countries or if those are numbers from just before that.

Regardless i dont see how launching in those 38 countries would help them that much anyways, most of the ppl in those countries that wanted to play probably already ordered the game online at launch.
The numbers do not include the 38-country launch.
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05.07.2012 , 04:21 PM | #472
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
They said it does, in fact, include trial players.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ea-...?siteid=yhoof2
Yeah I'd have been 99% certain they'd include trial players (almost all MMORPGs do count trial players - both in first free month trial and free weekend trialers too), I'm not so certain about free time players though (but I'd still be betting on them doing so).
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05.07.2012 , 04:21 PM | #473
750K is a lot closer to the actual playerbase. It will be 500K if rated warzones do not launch in Fiscal Q1 April-June.
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05.07.2012 , 04:22 PM | #474
Quote: Originally Posted by Lt_Latency View Post
It's because of the general trend of almost every MMO so far. Once the bleed starts it's doesn't stop quickly for almost every single MMO.

1.3 million is AWSOME!!!! If they stay there but that is just straight bleed with nothing new launching. We still have to get threw d3 GW2 and panadas.
See my reference to LOTRO, they dropped to 35% of their peak numbers between their two failed expansions. Can the trend be reversed over night.... YUP!!! you just need a big event or reason to log in. Look at the log in numbers and server activity during the world event on tat. You need buzz, and some reason for people to log in to change your trends. LOTRO did it with a dragon, and they went to 120% of their previous peak.

D3/GW2 are old school games, and as such will be prone to burn out. Look at Skyrim, it is was a flash in the pan to most MMO's. The real threat would be another MMO launch, and I don't see anything on the horrizon that I would call a real threat. Honestly Bioware is the biggest threat to SWTOR, if they cannot get the quality of their product and communications up, they will loose the trust of the casual and main stream gammer. My guess about the 400000 is they represent the ADD hard core gamer type, who have yet to be captured by any MMO.

Look at MMO populations they always fall off three months after launch. See the tumble weeds on the rift servers for proof of that.

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shepardcomander
05.07.2012 , 04:22 PM | #475
Quote: Originally Posted by Drudenfusz View Post
Didn't Daniel Erickson said just a few weeks ago that the subs are not going down, only the time people spend in the game? looks like he either lied or has no clue what is going on.
I do remember Daniel Erickson saying that, for the benefit of those whose memory may need a little boost, here's the link http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/23/bi...g-in-to-swtor/

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Valkirus
05.07.2012 , 04:22 PM | #476
Quote: Originally Posted by Sabster View Post
EA said they need 1 million+ people to be "HUGELY PROFITABLE" and 500,000 accounts were 'sustainable'

So 1.3 million accounts is well above 'hugely profitable'.

Having said that, they still need to do server merges. My server is practicaly dead.


EDIT: And just to add - people that are comparing WoW accoutns to TOR need to stop. WoW is a freak of nature. Compare accounts to LOTRO and EQ and COH, etc... 1.3 million accounts is WELL past what they need to be still considered a huge success.
Lol! You just pointed out why figures can be misleading and the sub report was based on " active accounts " thru the end of March.
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05.07.2012 , 04:23 PM | #477
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiaa
Um no my math is correct.

I graduated from Fanboy University and scored the highest on the state standard B.L.I.N.D. test.

As it stands now, 25% of players have left. However, 25% have just left to wash their cars and ride their bikes so by the time the summer starts 25% will have returned which equals 5 million subscriptions.
an that make swtor THE BIGGEST mmo EVER!
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Erishumlol
05.07.2012 , 04:23 PM | #478
Quote: Originally Posted by Leskit View Post
750K is a lot closer to the actual playerbase. It will be 500K if rated warzones do not launch in Fiscal Q1 April-June.

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Tiaa
05.07.2012 , 04:23 PM | #479
Quote: Originally Posted by Sulvan View Post
I am not saying your math is wrong but your knowledge of the market is little. MMo's rarely draw new people to play them but instead they get other players from other games to move to their game. The largest influx of players was with wow and that is because they had good marketing. So you are wrong but your math is right but Economics wise you are wrong.
SWTOR is the best MMO to date.

It had a perfect launch, no bugs, Bioware responds to every problem as fast as they can!

25% of their subscribers left? Big deal. Plenty of them in China.

Next quarter 50% leave? Who cares?! I hear the ocean is an unexplored area for MMOs. Fish love SWTOR!

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Sulvan
05.07.2012 , 04:24 PM | #480
I read this and lol'd http://www.mercurynews.com/business/...ny-consumerist
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