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Prolapse
05.07.2012 , 04:08 PM | #411
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiaa View Post
What are you talking about?

Losing 25% means that the game is still growing.

25% just left to make room for the new 25% coming.
I wish that were true.
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Sulvan
05.07.2012 , 04:08 PM | #412
Quote: Originally Posted by Leskit View Post
It says 1.2 Mil subs but keep in mind that free month everyone received. There are a ton of subs that are not counted as being dropped due to that free month because they are still coded as active. Sub loss is actually closer to 50% but the free month lets them make the shareholders feel better.
THANK YOU seems like you are the only one that points this out.

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Dezzi
05.07.2012 , 04:09 PM | #413
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
We're half glass full people. You see "Loss of 400K" and we see "Retention of 1.3 Million". It's anyone's guess if they level out, get better, get worse, etc. The fact is, for now, the game still has a very good player base half a year into it's life span. That's actually pretty good....
I explained my philosophy a few posts up.

The change is reported as a negative: SWTOR had 1.7 million subscribers, but lost 400,000. That's negative change. Even if you want to qualify it in terms of total population, the change is negative: 1.7 million subscribers to 1.3 million subscribers is a negative difference.
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Tiaa
05.07.2012 , 04:09 PM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by Muskaan View Post
What?

/10char
If you do basic math 25% equals leaving so when they leave 25% more players come.

Divide by everything is fine and nothing is wrong. You get 25% more players so I predict by the end of...

August the game will have a 350% player increase.

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Irilith
05.07.2012 , 04:09 PM | #415
Quote: Originally Posted by MaverickXIV View Post
Where do you see this? I can't find it in the report.
http://investor.ea.com/

On page 7 of the "Prepared Comments".

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Mustelidaen
05.07.2012 , 04:09 PM | #416
Well, the pressure is on the developers. There is still hope. And we don't have to wait until 1.3.

A LFG tool will NOT provide incentive to do HM FP dailies. There is an easier, quick change they can make--a change that will give all the idle level 50s something to do.

Up the ante for doing HM flashpoints. This would add huge incentive to do flashpoints. The HM daily quest reward should be scaled to the difficulty of the heroic completed, and should include Rakata and Black Hole tokens as appropriate:

The Black Talon: Keep as-is, "LFG quick daily BT HM" in General Chat makes my stomach turn
Boarding Party: Add 1 Rakata token
The Foundry, Directive 7: Add 2 Rakata token
The Battle of Ilum, The False Emperor, Kaon under Siege: Add 1 Black Hole token
Lost Island: Add 2 Black Hole token

If people sign on every day to do the daily, it will help the economy as well.

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veyl
05.07.2012 , 04:09 PM | #417
Hopefully the devs look at this POST and go from there, otherwise that number will continue to drop.

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DarthTHC
05.07.2012 , 04:09 PM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaxitov View Post
A. I don't have any reason to beleive what EA tells their investors.

B. I wonder what their reported sub numbers would have been for this game had it not been star wars.
A. You mean except that it's illegal for a publicly traded company to lie in the forum they used to communicate those numbers, right?

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Galbatorrix
05.07.2012 , 04:10 PM | #419
Quote: Originally Posted by Leskit View Post
It says 1.2 Mil subs but keep in mind that free month everyone received. There are a ton of subs that are not counted as being dropped due to that free month because they are still coded as active. Sub loss is actually closer to 50% but the free month lets them make the shareholders feel better.


Link or it didn't happen. You realize that Bioware didn't give free months to inactive accounts, right? So, unless those players all cancelled after receiving their free month, then you're absolutely, positively wrong in your assumption.

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Dezzi
05.07.2012 , 04:10 PM | #420
Quote: Originally Posted by WarSiren View Post
Right but that is not how it actually happens. It's not a steady stream, unsubbs are usually in bursts due related to an event. (i.e. Patch content.) Honestly when i see things like this it makes me think the person doing it is throwing common sense to the wind to appear to be book smart.
Sigh...

This person isn't trying to describe reality; they're trying to put things into perspective.
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