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BCBull
05.07.2012 , 03:57 PM | #361
For give me 1 out of 4 have left.

4500 people per day

185 people per hour are leaving.

THIS IS NOT GOOD.
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itekazzawrrlic
05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #362
Quote: Originally Posted by amantheil View Post
A drop was almost certainly expected. But a 25% drop?

I like the game, and I think 1.3 million is still a good number that most MMO's would LOVE to have. If the game 'plateaus' at 1.3 million, then that would be an incredible success. I'm not panicking or saying the 'game is dooooooomed!!!!".

But there's really no way to spin a 25% loss as a good thing. I have no idea if the trend will continue. But if it does continue, then it's very troubling. If they turn things around, and even just 'hold' at 1.3 million, then it would be a success.
To be honest, i don't even think they expected to have as many subs, so yes... it's still a good thing to be holding at 1.3M.
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WarSiren
05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #363
Quote: Originally Posted by BCBull View Post
4,500 people are leaving this game every day

185 people hour are leaving this game.
lol I'd like to see a source for those numbers. I mean I can make up numbers too..
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05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #364
Well you also have to realize that SWTOR promised ranked WZ's where is that? Alot of people came back to the game specifically for that, only to get a huge slap in the face.

Two weeks after the patch the sound problems made people want to quit alone.

I myself saw alot of potential for this game, but having a couple 50's, raided and saw most end game content in HM.. I can say I don't expect this game to last a year without going F2P. This is yet another MMO fumbled and dropped under this companies watchful, or so they say.. gaze.

The only things that were good in this game, WoW itself are installing into Mists of fail as we speak. And it didn't take blizzard years and millions of dollars to do it either. Maybe next time worry less abotu voice acting and more about supplying an actual good game for your customers, rather then bust.

But don't worry, you're money I would be spending on this trash, will now be handed back over to blizzard for diablo 3, where I foresee yet another 15% - to 25% population decrease after the free 30 days that was given out, is over because diablo 3 had snuck from under SWTOR noses the people.

My prediction, this game goes F2P or is scrapped completely by 2013.
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05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #365
Quote: Originally Posted by BCBull View Post
For give me 1 out of 4 have left.

4500 people per day

185 people per hour are leaving.

THIS IS NOT GOOD.
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EvoEmpire
05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #366
Next quarter will be double that 800k or more, people just don't understand, taking an early hit like this is very very bad and no MMO in history has ever recovered from a 24% loss


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Nyoro
05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #367
This is indeed an ill omen.

The problem isn't going to stop either unless BioWare pull their finger out their *** and bring this game up to current standards.

It's a great shame no developer can make an mmo to give WoW a run for its money. I guess this game is probably as close as any will come though.
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DarthTHC
05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #368
Quote: Originally Posted by JediZenn View Post
Thats pretty dead.

You take the number, first subtract anyone with an active account that isn't actively playing, say, 10%? That seems fair. so 1,170,000 active players.

Take the remainder, spread it across every server (123 in NA, 45 in Europe, and 3 more for the Aussies). 171 servers, if divided equally...6842 active players per server.

then spread that across a 24 hour day.....average of 285 players on in a given hour, not counting for peak hour spikes or early morning hour drops.

So, on average, using generous estimates, 285 players are online, per server, per hour. Thats pretty damn dead.

Feel free to test that number against your server during peak hours, should be pretty darn close.


I think your 10% is off. I think it's low. Remember that BioWare gave a lot of people a free 30 days, and those free 30 days are in the 1.3 million.

I would also like to point out that, even assuming your math is correct, that 285 online per server/hour is probably broken down as ~120 republic and ~145 Imperial on that server.

That's not a lot of players to game with!

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itekazzawrrlic
05.07.2012 , 03:58 PM | #369
Quote: Originally Posted by bcbull View Post
for give me 1 out of 4 have left.

4500 people per day

185 people per hour are leaving.

this is not good.
it's not the end of the world either.
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Galbatorrix
05.07.2012 , 03:59 PM | #370
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
The idea is to present the appropriate scale for 400,000 people--it's a lot. 400,000 people...

Honestly, what are you so worried about? Or is it that you just want others to agree that 1.3 Million is some how a poor player base? Within the next couple months, we'll have transfers and a LFG tool. If anything, that should stabilize/raise the 1.3 #.

If the game still loses a ton of players after that, then there's nothing Bioware could have done to stop it anyway.