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Dezzi
05.07.2012 , 03:51 PM | #331
Quote: Originally Posted by Octavariumdream View Post
When you consider games like Final Fantasy XI at it's peak had about 500,000 active subscribers, and was considered very successful by MMO standards, I don't see how having 1 mil + subs = fail.
Consider it this way: SWTOR just lost almost as many subscribers as FFXI had at its peak.
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DarthVindictus
05.07.2012 , 03:52 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
OH NO!!! The game is doomed, DOOMED!!!! Seriously? 1.3M subscribers is a failure?! All MMO's and I mean all MMO's lose subs with in the first few months. All this says to me is SWTOR now has it's core player base. These are the people that like the game and are going to continue to play.
All ships hit icebergs on their maiden voyage! I like swimming so it doesn't matter if the ship is sinking! Your cabin may be flooded but I'm nice and dry on The Fatman, so the ship isn't taking on water!

This is what I'm hearing from statements like yours.

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LawAssassin
05.07.2012 , 03:52 PM | #333
1.3 Subs . . . but how many of those subs are active players?

Could be that 300k of those, or more are people who bought 6 month subs and are no longer playing . . .


I'm sure Bioware knows the actual numbers, and for obvious reasons are not releasing those. Are server mergers that big of a blow to the ego that they'll just refuse to do them? Do they really think that 1.3-1.4 will bring back hundreds of thousands of players, and bring in a couple hundred thousand new subs on top of that?

Someone at EA needs to suck it up and make the right call. Swallow your pride, merge the servers, and focus on growing the game back that way. Stop trying to do these bandaid fixes to try and ebb the loss of subs.

Lost subs are lost subs. And when June/July hit, they're gonna lose another huge batch as the 6 month subs/ +1 free month run dry.

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Riggler
05.07.2012 , 03:52 PM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by Darkulous View Post
Ummm, can you point out those 1.3 million for me? I'm having a hard time finding them.
/raises hand...

Here's one
And there's 4 more over there whom I run with in game in our guilds on two servers...
So there's 5 of the 1.3mil...does that help ya???

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Rayla_Felana
05.07.2012 , 03:52 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by Prolapse View Post
Yeah, not only an official statement, but an official statement that makes the company look bad. So continue to be snarky and defend your point which is... what exactly?
A fact in a thread filled with assumptions, what? you didn't get that?

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itekazzawrrlic
05.07.2012 , 03:52 PM | #336
Quote: Originally Posted by Pvpingwithnoobs View Post
Lol not for those who singed up for a month because of 1.2, then cancelled very quickly after.

Lol keep on taking that blue pill, I am sure blissful ignorance is far better than the truth.
So what? Your logic if flawed so if anyone has taken the blue pill, it's you.
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JerokTalram
05.07.2012 , 03:52 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by JediZenn View Post
Thats pretty dead.

You take the number, first subtract anyone with an active account that isn't actively playing, say, 10%? That seems fair. so 1,170,000 active players.

Take the remainder, spread it across every server (123 in NA, 45 in Europe, and 3 more for the Aussies). 171 servers, if divided equally...6842 active players per server.

then spread that across a 24 hour day.....average of 285 players on in a given hour, not counting for peak hour spikes or early morning hour drops.

So, on average, using generous estimates, 285 players are online, per server, per hour. Thats pretty damn dead.

Feel free to test that number against your server during peak hours, should be pretty darn close.
Except people play for more than one hour at a time so your math is useless.

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arcdaemon
05.07.2012 , 03:53 PM | #338
Servers are dead you can't even play on high po p servers hardly the game is bleeding subs and you think it's alright.

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itekazzawrrlic
05.07.2012 , 03:53 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
If the drop was expected, then why in the galaxy was Daniel Erickson telling us subscriptions hadn't changed just two weeks ago?
Probably because the subs had already dropped.
Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows?

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Irilith
05.07.2012 , 03:53 PM | #340
"Through the end of the quarter, approximately 2.4 million units have sold through. In our last
call we indicated that we had 1.7 million active subscribers, and as of the end of April we now
have 1.3 million, with a substantial portion of the decrease due to casual and trial players
cycling out of the subscriber base, driving up the overall percentage of paying subscribers."

Just to make clear when these numbers have been recorded.
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