Subs down 25%

OH NO!!! The game is doomed, DOOMED!!!! Seriously? 1.3M subscribers is a failure?! All MMO's and I mean all MMO's lose subs with in the first few months. All this says to me is SWTOR now has it's core player base. These are the people that like the game and are going to continue to play.

Some people are misunderstanding what 1.3 million active subs actually means. Just reread the article for the definition of active subscriber:
"Analysts were expecting EA to end the recent quarter with about 1.6 million active subscribers — defined as those paying for subscriptions along with players who are still in the free month of trials after buying the game."

Source of course is the MW report: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ea-...?siteid=yhoof2

Couple that with Erickson's admission about login rates: http://www.computerandvideogames.com...s-are-bioware/

Active sub #s =/= Login Rate. I would be shocked if EA would publicly release login rate #'s, because I'm guessing that number would be very depressing.

Now to me, not looking at past history of other MMOs performance (which I dismiss on the basis that the MMO market was not the same as the climate SWTOR came into), EA investors are indeed worried about their investment in general. It's stated in the article:

"The results from “Star Wars: The Old Republic” — as well as a disappointing forecast for the current fiscal year — help send the videogame publisher’s shares down more than 8% in after-hours trading on Monday following the results. "

This does not mean the investors are solely reacting to SWTOR sub losses of course. To think that is ridiculous. However, with the company's outlook for the next fiscal year being currently negative, I see a potential positive trickle effect for us still playing. Investors need signs of change, this puts pressure on the company, and as a result they can either 1) downsize to cover potential reduced earnings and/or 2) address community needs to maintain current sub base and foster growth. And that 1.3 million current active subs does not reflect correlate with login rate which Mr. Erickson has attested to.

So I'm taking all of this with a grain of salt. Actions speak louder than words, and we will see that reflected with less threads about "server X is dead" and more with "server y is too full!(*@#".

Who is talking to you? I'm sure not.

You are just spamming a bunch of baseless lies.

Want to talk about analysts? Well I know who is getting a promotion:

Doug Creutz.

NO IT IS NOT. Maple story has more ffs.

You are just spamming a bunch of baseless lies.

Wow is losing a massive amount of subs and it has LFG, Addons etc. To think BW will keep subs by adding those features is "silly".

The people that left were bored wow fanboys and they are no real loss anyways.

This is referring to content patches (like 1.2 and 1.3), not to "expansions" (which most people think of as a boxed product).

OP needs to go back to elementary school. That's a 10% drop not 25%.

Also, I guess being the second biggest MMO is failing? Got it.

One explanation for the drop could be simple: Launch-day subscribers stopped playing once their free 30-day trials were up. However, EA has not made any mention of that possibility.

Update: In a conference call this afternoon, EA said the decrease was indeed due to "casual and trial players" cycling out of the game.