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sharkfinsix
05.07.2012 , 03:09 PM | #171
I don't care how many play if my server only has 20 of them.

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Dezzi
05.07.2012 , 03:09 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
All MMOs in history, even WoW the industry leader lost a decent amount of subs, after a few years it peaked at 12 million.

All we factually know is that SWTOR is the second most successful MMO in history atm.
... and that--since the announcement of 1.7 million subscribers--400,000 have moved onto other things.
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Rayla_Felana
05.07.2012 , 03:09 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by Wrestle View Post
well it cost 300 million and operating costs are astronomical, so. lol
300 million was way off, 120 million was the actual cost, all the industry analysts have pointed towards that.

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Rayla_Felana
05.07.2012 , 03:09 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
... and that--since the announcement of 1.7 million subscribers--400,000 have moved onto other things.
Just like every other mmo ever made, ever.

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Ortagos
05.07.2012 , 03:10 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
Why do you guys want this game to shut down?

I'd like an answer please.
because they dont like the game and expected it to be different then how it is... they feel BW/EA stole there money cause they dont get what they deserve from BW/EA. and another reason they want it to fail... they are just forum trolls and never learend to hande diapointment to use it for something good

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Dezzi
05.07.2012 , 03:10 PM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Just like every other mmo ever made, ever.
Really? Every MMO ever made has lost 400,000 subscribers in the span of a couple of months? What about MMOs developed around massive IP franchises?
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Darkulous
05.07.2012 , 03:10 PM | #177
1.3 million? One question - where are they? Seriously, look at our servers. Even with a measly 1.3 million shouldn't our servers be more populated than they are now? Maybe those free 30 day subs they handed out weren't as selfless as we thought.
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Gaxar
05.07.2012 , 03:10 PM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
You have lost, just admit this game is not doomed, it is the second most successful MMO launch ever, and probably has the best retention rate since Warcraft.
The news of this latest loss of subs is going to be spun two ways.

1) by people such as yourself looking at the stat and saying 'hey, 1.3 millions sub. thats pretty damn good for an MMO, hell Warcarft is the only other mmo with 1m+ figures, thats pretty great news.

2) by people like me taking a holistic view of ALL the stats that have been made available since launch. 2 million sales. 1.7m subs retained by march. 1.3m subs retained by may 7th.

Regardless of the figure itself, the downward trend is shockingly bad when you consider how much money and time was poured into this game, along with the IP itself which is ofc a very strong one. Even as the article suggests, the drop was 4 times bigger than the analysts expected it to be (although i take what an article says with a pinch of salt when it reports on what 'analysts think'.)Even so the point remains, the drop was a big one.

Now i am NOT saying that swtor is dead. far from it, 1.3m as people like you say, is a great figure. The problem is, bleeding 300k subs from launch to march (3 months from launch), then a further 400k from march to may (2 months since last call), when u consider 2 big content patches have been released is NOT a good thing, it is not promising for the future, and if you are still playing this game then you must worry that this trend will continue.

Someone above was saying they would be happy with the whiners all leaving etc. which is pretty standard for forums but completely stupid and a lack of foresight. Yes the quote has been that 500k subs will keep this game afloat, but you can bet your *** moeny wont be pumped into it at the same rate you would like it to and ofc that will have an effect on rate and quality of future content.

So lastly, in response to your quote above. it may ver well have been the best launch comparing figures to Warcraft. The problem iis, in 3 months time when it takes another 400k sub hit are you still going to be trumpeting 'hey, we may be losing subs at an alarming rate but the current figure and launch is still the best since wow!!'. Then 3 months on the same thing etc until you're pretty much left with a game that had a strong start, then fizzled out and died after a year. The trend is pretty blatant that swtor is falling on its *** and without some massive changes to stop a huge chunk of player base loss each fiscal quarter, pretty soon some people will have their wish and this will just be another small time mmo barely sc****** maintenance income.
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Galbatorrix
05.07.2012 , 03:10 PM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by CrunkShizzle View Post
"fatman"

how about rolling on a normal server,not one of the select few the population is so obsessed about

i think your attitude towards the state of sw tor will change there kid


So, you're mad because he's smarter than you and rolled on a heavy pop server so he could fully enjoy the game? Also, people that call others "kid" are normally kids themselves.

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Ortagos
05.07.2012 , 03:11 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
... and that--since the announcement of 1.7 million subscribers--400,000 have moved onto other things.
like in any other mmo after a few months?
before you start dealing with numbers, learn the facts