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Obiwansghost
05.07.2012 , 02:48 PM | #91
1.3 mill is respectable. I think that the loss is simply a matter of those who bought the game (first time MMO players, strictly Star Wars fans etc) who subbed for a month and decided the game wasn't for them. It happens with most MMO's. Seven years ago, I bought WoW and subbed for a month...in the end it just wasn't the game for me same with AoC etc. Even if they totally wrote the game off, I'm sure they are secretly keeping an ear open for new things coming out for this game. I do the same for WoW.
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Wrestle
05.07.2012 , 02:49 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiriensoul View Post
1.3 million left, after 6 months.. Impressive BioWare, well done!
I would say they are happy over there.. Well congratzs you deserve it

Now get moving and release 1.3 pls :P
To bad EA execs aren't saying the same thing to them right now. lol

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Dezzi
05.07.2012 , 02:49 PM | #93
Remember that time the forums dismissed that one analyst who predicted a drop of 10% as doomsaying?

Oops!

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...ubscribers.ars

Quote:
In an investor note released today, Cowen and Company analyst Doug Creutz said he suspects that subscription levels for The Old Republic may already be lower than the 1.7 million EA reported in February. Creutz's primary piece of evidence for this belief is publicly available server population numbers assembled and reported by TORstatus.net. These figures have shown a roughly 10 percent decline over the last two months. That doesn't necessarily mean the game has lost 10 percent of its subscribers in that time, of course, but it isn't really a sign of strong player growth, either.

[snip]

Cowen and Company now officially predicts that The Old Republic will see an average of 1.25 million subscribers throughout the fiscal year ending next March.
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Rayla_Felana
05.07.2012 , 02:49 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Foxcolt View Post
Looks like the news sites are starting to report on the downturn..

Better get your PR folks out there BIOWARE! TORTANIC IS GOING DOWN HURHURHRUHRUHUR
They don't need to, here are the reasons why:

1.) Proves the game is not dead and shuts up doomsayers who previously had a fairly convincing argument.
2.) 1.3 million is probably the best retention rate seen since Warcraft.
3.) We have no idea how much Legacy 1.2 and 38 new prospects have increased the Sub numbers.

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Asavar
05.07.2012 , 02:50 PM | #95
Would resub if my commando and merc weren't such ****** dps.

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arcdaemon
05.07.2012 , 02:50 PM | #96
2.2 million down to 1.3 million and you people think this is a success they are bleeding subs and have lost almost 50 percent of their player base.

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Knvkl
05.07.2012 , 02:50 PM | #97
1.3m is still a very solid number. They only need 500k to make SWTOR profitable, 1m is already a "great investment":

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/201...-at-1-million/

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ohpleasework
05.07.2012 , 02:51 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by oldshatterhand View Post
25%? Wait until 26th May when the free 30 days end and it will be 75%.
It won't be that steep a loss so soon, though it certainly won't be pretty. By the start of next quarter I'd expect this game to be performing like every other recent MMO flop that launched without modern MMO design aspects (Aion, Warhammer, Rift) - dropping an additional 40-50% within their original markets. Come July this game will be hovering in the 600k-700k subscription range.

That is unless EA does what's necessary and forces Bioware to immediately focus on what actually matters, and gets those updates pushed faster than any major content patched we've ever seen from a MMO developer. And frankly that's not going to happen; pigs don't fly.

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Wrestle
05.07.2012 , 02:51 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Dezzi View Post
Remember that time the forums dismissed that one analyst who predicted a drop of 10% as doomsaying?

Oops!

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...ubscribers.ars
This guy caught a bunch of flack from this post and it was 3 times larger than he predicted.

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Foxcolt
05.07.2012 , 02:51 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiriensoul View Post
1.3 million left, after 6 months.. Impressive BioWare, well done!
I would say they are happy over there.. Well congratzs you deserve it

Now get moving and release 1.3 pls :P
I don't think you understand how business works....

The way to keep stocks up is to come within or exceed market expectations..the analysts predicted Tor would be at 1.6 million subs by this quarter..it's down from predictions to 1.3.

To the people who think "oh 1.3 is still good, way to go herpedyherpaderp!" you don't realize that stock prices are derived from market expectations which are derived from predictions. When you dip below those predictions your stock price takes a hit.

As it stands now..SWTOR is a business failure as it didn't meet expectations and EA is going to have to adjust future goals and target dollars to account for the steep decline in subs.
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