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05.07.2012 , 02:25 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by EzoEo View Post
38 new countries which aren't counted untill next quarter since the report counts the last 4 months and not 4 months in the future.

Atleast use common sense .
Quarter == 3 months. (not 4)

This is EA Fiscal Q4 so Jan, Feb and March.

New country sales not included in the count.

75% retention is not bad. Though given it's a Star Wars IP, 25% drop in sub seems rather steep. Star Wars sells.
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Gaje's Avatar

05.07.2012 , 02:25 PM | #32
so whats these 2 new expansions that it mentions

1.3 and 1.4 or 2 new expansions ?
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05.07.2012 , 02:26 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by river View Post
i see this game losing a lot more subs, i guess we will wait and see, but i a not surprised, this game was not designed with true mmoers in mind
I see it starting to pick momentum back up with 1.3, 1.4 and of course transfers.

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05.07.2012 , 02:26 PM | #34
Given the state of the servers I was expecting a slightly larger drop, though 25% in a single quarter is still catastrophic and signals the beginning of the subscription free fall.

A robust cross server queue for all PVE content and server consolidations should have been their primary concerns for their first big patch (1.2), and it should have been published a month earlier. Oh well. By this time next year the game will be fighting for scraps with the rest of the MMO gutter trash, Bioware's MMO division will be dismantled in all but name, and they will never be the same after EA is done routing them.

Should make for some interesting news articles in the coming months, if nothing else.

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05.07.2012 , 02:27 PM | #35 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by Gaje View Post
so whats these 2 new expansions that it mentions

1.3 and 1.4 or 2 new expansions ?
This is referring to content patches (like 1.2 and 1.3), not to "expansions" (which most people think of as a boxed product).

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05.07.2012 , 02:27 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
Dead my ***.
Thats pretty dead.

You take the number, first subtract anyone with an active account that isn't actively playing, say, 10%? That seems fair. so 1,170,000 active players.

Take the remainder, spread it across every server (123 in NA, 45 in Europe, and 3 more for the Aussies). 171 servers, if divided equally...6842 active players per server.

then spread that across a 24 hour day.....average of 285 players on in a given hour, not counting for peak hour spikes or early morning hour drops.

So, on average, using generous estimates, 285 players are online, per server, per hour. Thats pretty damn dead.

Feel free to test that number against your server during peak hours, should be pretty darn close.

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05.07.2012 , 02:27 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Theology View Post
And this is after they launched in 38 new countries.

Most of which are still in the 30 free day grace period so they wouldnt' be considered par tof the active subscriber count for this quarter's report.

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05.07.2012 , 02:27 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
But...they said subs were was just that we all weren't online at like the exact same time any more...
In what world ISN'T 1.3 million subs good? Most MMOs would LOVE to have as many subs as SWTOR lost, lol. There are only two MMOs (possibly 3) that have subs over 1 million (talking NA). SWTOR and WoW.
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05.07.2012 , 02:28 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Cmdluke View Post
I'm just gonna leave this here for you since someone else said it best:
Last time there was a sub number stated it was as of the day the report was made, the 1.7 million subscribers was as of the day it was the report was made, not as of the end of december. So there is no reason to believe they wouldn't state the subscribers as is now.

Even then, losing 700,000 subscribers in 6 months is huge when looking at the number of servers. The facts are still there, there is way to many servers, and they literally need to drop servers, otherwise they will still keep on bleeding subscriptions.
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05.07.2012 , 02:28 PM | #40

1.3 Million is still pretty strong imo.

"STAR WARS®: The Old Republic™ active subscribers are 1.3 million. Two new content packs — Legacy and Allies, available in Q1."

This Allies content sounds interesting.
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