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Care and feeding of the Noobs!

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redfurry
05.07.2012 , 02:04 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by ironix View Post
While I agree there is no cause to be rude to these folks, people who can't be bothered to do a quick Google search or do some basic research about their class has always been a pet peeve of mine. One of the first things I always do is research my intended class when joining an MMO. Otherwise, when I don't know where something is or how to do something, I'll research that as well. Asking random people in general chat is always a last resort.
The thing is, for some people asking around *is* research. Some of us tend to want to find out things for ourselves; for others, asking other people comes much more naturally. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, is as good a way to socialize as any.

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Scorpienne
05.07.2012 , 10:20 AM | #22
Just as an aside... if you're rude to people and you have a guild tag underneath your character name, some folks are going to remember that. If you're helpful, and even merciful on the people that should have Googled it first, with a guild tag underneath your character name, some folks are going to remember that, too. Your attitude reflects on your guild.

If you're unguilded, the same is true. That legacy name is going to stick with you a while. If you get a rep as a someone who's hard on noobs, you'll be judged for it.

Paige

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Excorsion
05.07.2012 , 10:20 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by ironix View Post
While I agree there is no cause to be rude to these folks, people who can't be bothered to do a quick Google search or do some basic research about their class has always been a pet peeve of mine. One of the first things I always do is research my intended class when joining an MMO. Otherwise, when I don't know where something is or how to do something, I'll research that as well. Asking random people in general chat is always a last resort.
Your pet peeve is not a excuse to be mean to a new player tho....

you do realize the amount of misinformation out there on the web about this game right?
When I first started this game coming from a game that you basically had to do 40 hours of research every week to be in endgame ( WoW ) I did use google alot.. and I did find a bunch of info that was to put it nicely... someone's opinion and no real hard facts to it.

Players not helping new players ingame is the number one reason most mmo's start to fail. if the New player doesn't see a friendly attitude in the playerbase then they are going to think the worse of the game and not actually try and enjoy the game...

So instead of letting your pet peeve bother you.. suck it up and think about when you was new to the game... and share with others how you overcame the mystery of the game instead of getting upset that someone else is asking for info.

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BuckShotSchell
05.07.2012 , 11:45 AM | #24
If Google could solve every problem and answer every question why would we even have a community or more to the point an "MMORPG"? Also until you are actually in the game googling where is X is really pretty usless.
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Reanae
05.07.2012 , 11:56 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Scorpienne View Post
Just as an aside... if you're rude to people and you have a guild tag underneath your character name, some folks are going to remember that. If you're helpful, and even merciful on the people that should have Googled it first, with a guild tag underneath your character name, some folks are going to remember that, too. Your attitude reflects on your guild.

If you're unguilded, the same is true. That legacy name is going to stick with you a while. If you get a rep as a someone who's hard on noobs, you'll be judged for it.

Paige
As a GM of a decent sized guild, I stress this point. When you are wearing the guild tag in public, you are the guild..*shrugs* I was known as the Bag Lady in WQW cause I would go hand out 16-18 slot bags to new players and offer to answer questions or even show them around if needed. I try to be a good influence in this game as well. If I hear someone asks a question, I'll whisper them the answer. I don't see the need to be rude to new players. I have one rule in Bloodsky Offensive, don't be a jerk. If you can't follow that rule, I don't want you.

Trolls I think...are kids who's parents didn't hug them enough....we should pity them. I mean ..their only joy in life is making others miserable. Can you imagine how horrible their life must have been?

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Letallis
05.07.2012 , 12:48 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Brosephiine View Post
I remember when I first joined WoW and made a frost mage.

A) I didn't know you could jump.
B) I put my talent points into all three trees at random from the very beginning.

Admitting this makes me want to cry.
I was level 20 something before I realized there was an auction house.....

As for SWTOR. I was on Tatooine on my Lvl25 gunslinger and this guy needed help he was a level29 jedi. So I offer to tag along. We go into this group phase that he thought was pretty hard and I realized I'd done it the day before on my gunslinger alone. I didn't have time to really talk to him about playing but I didn't grief him either. People shouldn't assume or expect certain knowledge or experience with folks in the game. Like a youngster I knew who had to use a seriously laid out mouse because his other hand was pretty much useless. I go by the old rule I'd rather hang with someone who doesn't know it all with a great heart than a "genius" who doesn't give a crap.

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Nydus
05.07.2012 , 01:25 PM | #27
+ 1 to the OP.

I have a Level 50 and I'm still being taught stuff by more advanced players. I go out of my way to pass that on.

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Kamor
05.07.2012 , 01:57 PM | #28
I have to agree with the OP that a lot of players are rude. This just shows how terrible the community is in this particular MMO over all. A poor community makes for a poor game. Granted I feel the poor community also comes from poor developers who do not listen to the community added with the effect of poor customer support. So a lot of anguish is being taken out on one another.

However, the other side of the issue are players who are unable to take the time to READ what they should do next or where to go. If people actually paid attention to what they were doing they would not have to keep asking so many minuscule questions that are easily answered by simply READING. You also have to keep in mind some people might be asking simply to troll and get a rise out of other players and are rather happy about doing so.
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Tautha
05.07.2012 , 04:24 PM | #29
Every time I see a legitimate question or query answered with "L2P" or "Google it"
I just feel like shaking some-one very hard. If you don't wan't to answer, why take the
effort to make a pointless retort? Some people aren't community minded, but that's
no a reason to be ignorant is it? Grrrrr!
Life isn't complicated - people complicate life!

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jwbaker
05.07.2012 , 05:39 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by ironix View Post
While I agree there is no cause to be rude to these folks, people who can't be bothered to do a quick Google search or do some basic research about their class has always been a pet peeve of mine. One of the first things I always do is research my intended class when joining an MMO. Otherwise, when I don't know where something is or how to do something, I'll research that as well. Asking random people in general chat is always a last resort.

While I get what you're saying, I do have to disagree with using that as a reason to have a pet peeve attack.

You have to realize that not everyone is a battle hardened MMO'er, like yourself. I have been involved in MMO's since 1997 and in that time have gained knowledge of places of interest on the internet. When I first started I had no knowledge of them.
Remember when you were new to MMOs? Did you already know everything and where to get information? Im going to have to assume, no. Maybe you could show or tell these people where the information is that you found, believe it or not some people don't have the tools to find that information. Perfect example, Im in IT and I had to show someone the other day what GOOGLE was, and how useful it was. Did I break out my SNL Computer Guy rude act? Nope, I pointed the browser to GOOGLE and showed them how to do it.

Btw, I really am not trying to flame you. I just think your post is kind of the antithesis of what the OP was stating, about how people may/may not get fed up with giving advice to new players when they seem to ask to many questions. Be patient