To the "Nothing to do at 50" crowd.

Hahaha, exactly.

On an unrelated note - "Ultimately, my solution is already largely PROVEN, not "stupid" as you suggest. Many of my friends agree with me," - His friends agree with him, so any counter-argument is clearly invalid.

Simple: I'm bored with TOR.

I haven't even logged in to TOR for more than a week now.

And no, I did not blast through the content. I only have one level 50, and a few lowbie alts. I actively listened to all of the voice-over content. I enjoyed the storyline. I don't even have all of the end-game gear. Before 1.2, I had Columi and Champion gear. After 1.2 it hasn't changed much for my main. And yes, I've PvPed, but my favorite was open world and, well, Illum was killed off by Bioware, slowly after 1.1.4, then completely after 1.2. And yes, I've done operations. Many times. Crafting? Of course. There's no argument that there's plenty to do end-game, it's just that a lot of it gets old after a couple months. The UI changes and other fixes in 1.2 really brightened my mood in TOR, but it's still not content.

Other than enjoying my alts, there's really no fun to the grinding at end-game. The Corellia dailies are sort of bland. I grinded like crazy at 1.1.5 to get all of the limited-time items like white crystals and speeders before they were gone. But now I just don't feel like anything end-game is fun. Stuff for my ship that should have been there in the first place. Gee, hold me back. And a speed boost that doesn't work in PvP (understandable), nor does it work in instances (WTHeck?). And a bunch of *yawn* boring emotes. Some pets... yeah, interesting, but still just aesthetics.

Will I keep subscribing? Yes. I might be bored now and not active, but I'll give Bioware time to give us something fun to do at end-game. In short, I had more fun grinding at end-game in LOTRO than I have in TOR, and people complained more about LOTRO end-game a couple years ago. I'm resisting the urge to mention WoW. On snap, I just did. Oh well.

In short, I'm here permanently for TOR provided EA/Bioware has a plan to release more end-game content, future expansions with level-cap bumps, etc. But as it stands right now, there's just not enough to keep me entertained as a primary game. So I drift a bit. I'm not expected TOR to fill all of my free-time, but there's little point playing it if it's just not fun for me right now.

We all felt very confident when we 'firt' hit 50. Now many of us who've been here since before BETA are on their third or more 50. I have 3 level 50's myself.

It's like make it to 50, start to like a character while leveling, then dump them in the trash to do it all over again. Very unfortunate but SWTOR got really repetitve really fast. Everything you listed gets old the umpteenth time you've gone through it and by the end of it all you just ask what's the point?

SWTOR is a single player game with co-op elements. Doesn't feel massive and for those of us on dying servers makes it very lonely. Much less trying to even do fp's, op's, or anything groupish. A simple LFG tool would at least give some boost to our morale.

This is the truth of the matter. And this also assumes there people to play with if your not on a dead server already. Really the only worthwhile and enjoyable endgame activity is raiding, and even that has some serious issues. Outside that it's repeat the same faceroll content over and over. The problem with the end game is that ya, there's a lot to do, but it either is bugged, has crap for rewards, or you do it once and your done since it's just repeat the same thing with no variety in each running of it.

Yes biochem is the best craft
No you cant get BM part b4 u get centurion 1 part
Grind are in all MMOs and in some is more than here
Yes Space is very entertaining and new style of space combat for most
Yes socialize

1: Run Flash Points.
There's no point.

2: Run Hard Mode Flash Points.
I ran all hard modes at least once after 1.2, to get the Aratech Ice speeder. I run Kaon/Lost Island Hard Mode for the black hole commendations. That's a couple of hours every 7 days.

3: Do daily repeatable quests on Illum for gear upgrades or just for credits or just for (gasp) fun.
I'm burnt, I've been doing the same sh*t since december.

4: Do repeatable group quests on other planets, some of which have specific goals in mind, for instance, there is a planet where you can do daily group quests that reward orange level gear specifically for your companions.
But wait a second, why do you need more than one companion at level 50? I have Elara Dorne in full rakata, it's all I need.... and once again, the same group quests since december.

5: Craft. Believe it or not, some people LOVe doing this and it is actually quite entertaining in this game.
Hmm... crafting quite entertaining in SWTOR? I respect your opinion. You can get good money from crafting augmented gear, augments and cybertech speeders after 1.2 but that's if your server is not dead and people actually are online to buy stuff.

6: PVP. It's pretty good here. Lots of reasons to do this, particularly with the coming ranking system. This will keep some people very busy for days on end.
I like SWTOR PVP but after some time, it gets boring and repetitive. I need to stop for a while. Maybe it's my class?

7: Socialize. Yes, people do still like to just "hang out" and have fun shooting the breeze. Get in there and meet new people you anti-social gits!
I just logged for this, I have 17 players in my friend list, whom I've played with from early access. On average now, I see 0 to 3 online at a time.

8: Space Combat. Many people enjoy this very much.
The same daily mission every day, since december. I stopped doing them last month.

9: Run normal mode, 8 man operations. Some good story here and very simple to organize and complete.
I don't need to do 8-man story modes anymore for now. But that doesn't apply to everyone.

10: Run hard mode, 8 man operations. Again, easy to organize but a much steeper learning curve with gear rewards that reflect this.
In an active guild, we raid EC hard mode and KP nightmare mode, 3 times a week.

11: Run 16 man normal operations. Harder to organize but much more epic in scale. If you have a big guild or a huge friends list or both, it's well worth the time to organize one of these and get it going.
Our guild can organize them but it's not the case for our server. Population has been down.

12: Run 16 man operations on hard mode. Not for the feint of heart but just what the doctor ordered for others.
Our guild can organize them but it's not the case for our server. Population has been down.

This game offers almost the exact same end game progression system as WoW yet people say WoW doesn't get boring.

What they don't want to admit is that it gets boring in WoW too. Its easier to mask in WoW because of their enormous population. However, sitting around AFK is the same in both games.

Look, if you smash through Story Mode, Hard Mode, and NM mode in a week's (or two) time then you only have yourself to blame. You obviously play the game...a lot. Bioware cannot give you infinite content. WoW and TOR offer similar daily activities and raid type experiences.

PvP can be infinite but only if you enjoy it. If you don't like PvP that isn't bioware's fault.

I'm sorry your bored but maybe you should examine yourself first. You don't have to play this game every night. You can do a lot in your personal life to make gaming more rewarding.

I am not a World of Warcraft player.

I raid three times a week and I don't find much else to do in this game right now, other than that. It's not a question of how ''fast'' my guild burns end-game content that will equal to my amount of fun.

I just expect something fun to do when I login, other than on my 3 other nights for raiding.

Happy that Diablo III is around the door~!

WoW did get boring for me, but it took 5 years. I'm bored with swtor already.

My first WoW main took months to level to 70. After the two weeks over Christmas when swtor launched I had 1 50 and 1 in the 30's.

After Christmas it was back to a working week, so I was playing in the evenings and some weekends. Not really a lot. I found all the PVE content easy and in general, the raid mechanics are very basic compared to WoW.

In my case swtor is too similar to WoW to be a fresh, exciting alternative, but too simple and easy to be a replacement.

keep running them flashpoints and operations, OP. glad you have a population that lets you even do those things. the fact that it took your guild 3 hours to do EV means you are relatively new. trust me, you'll soon get it on farm mode, and you'll soon realize what everyone is talking about.

i, too, was like you. then i got fully geared.