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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Mallorik
05.06.2012 , 11:17 PM | #901
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Soooo... if you had an LFG tool that you can toggle the X-server function to "ON", and he had an LFG tool that he can turn the X-server function to "OFF", where is the problem?

We should be teaming up and asking BioWare to make one instead of bickering over nothing now that a solution is here.

Unless you think that not enough people would use the X-server toggle? That people have to be "forced" to so that you can have your group?
I dont think you can find one person who wants a cross server lfg tool who would not agree to a toggle ability.

On the other hand i i think you would find alot less people who dont want cross server to agree to it, and getting their explanation as to why not would be nearly impossible, because they dont seem to have any real reasons except that they dont like it.

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Mallorik
05.06.2012 , 11:21 PM | #902
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
It becomes a problem when people who try to genuinely RPG the "old" fashioned way have to battle against the path of least resistance. What if Bioware is trying to break the mold and make an actual MMORPG where it's not all about telporting to instances all the time? Maybe the Pro X-LFG people are in the wrong game, is it their right to change that?
Yeah i hope they never let you teleport to a flashpoint, it would be nice if they put them all on one ship that was just a short speeder ride away from the main hub that would really keep the rpg in this mmo.

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JeramieCrowe
05.06.2012 , 11:21 PM | #903
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
I dont think you can find one person who wants a cross server lfg tool who would not agree to a toggle ability.

On the other hand i i think you would find alot less people who dont want cross server to agree to it, and getting their explanation as to why not would be nearly impossible, because they dont seem to have any real reasons except that they dont like it.
Well, I'm anti-X-server, and I'm the one that suggested it.

But, fine, challenge accepted. Anyone else that's anti-X-server: if you could use a LFG tool that guaranteed no one in your group would be from another server if you unchecked/toggled off X-server, why wouldn't you want it?
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mothear
05.06.2012 , 11:37 PM | #904
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Well, I'm anti-X-server, and I'm the one that suggested it.

But, fine, challenge accepted. Anyone else that's anti-X-server: if you could use a LFG tool that guaranteed no one in your group would be from another server if you unchecked/toggled off X-server, why wouldn't you want it?
I don't have a great issue however I believe the issue as it goes is;

As people who don't particularly care one way or another tend to take the path of least resistance those that were available to group with, and are currently grouping, will if they aren't that bothered about picking their own groups move over to the LFG which will offer the lowest wait time therefore diluting the pool that was available for those who do not want to use x-server.

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Skirata_Kal
05.07.2012 , 12:24 AM | #905
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
Why are we still arguing about this?

Just implement a LFG tool with an X-server toggle and call it a day. Both viewpoints get served.
I would certainly be ok with that.
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RachelAnne
05.07.2012 , 04:09 AM | #906
It does not matter if its xrealm or not, the issue is the lack of influence on your group.

Now that addons are falling from the sky like raindrops the doors are open for elitistīs and atleast I dont want these in my groups and they dont want me casual in theirs either.

The whole discussion about xrealm or not is pretty much pointless, as the problem is something else.

On my realm are people too I would never join a group if they make one, all those I would then get in a LFG tool - pointless.

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TKMaster
05.07.2012 , 04:40 AM | #907
Quote: Originally Posted by Gemble View Post
How about this...

a LFG tool.. that uses only ppl in your own server.
Or, as i've been saying for years....x-server LFG with like server types....that way i dont have to get into an argument everytime ppl from PVP servers shows up in PVP gear and proced to tell me thier not changing gear and how thier going to sodomize my children if they die <-----(WoW examples that happened to me every other LFD group)
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Goreslash
05.07.2012 , 05:35 AM | #908
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Sadly human nature dictates this would be grossly abused.
thats is just why he is sugesting it cant u see that
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Valkirus
05.07.2012 , 09:26 AM | #909
Quote: Originally Posted by RachelAnne View Post
It does not matter if its xrealm or not, the issue is the lack of influence on your group.

Now that addons are falling from the sky like raindrops the doors are open for elitistīs and atleast I dont want these in my groups and they dont want me casual in theirs either.

The whole discussion about xrealm or not is pretty much pointless, as the problem is something else.

On my realm are people too I would never join a group if they make one, all those I would then get in a LFG tool - pointless.
A big part of the discussion is being able to experence the end game content in a timely manner. How can that be pointless? The issue with it having a lack of influence on your group is a concern for some, but it is not the only issue here. And if the ignore list would prevent those you donot want to play with from grouping with you when you used a LFG tool, how would a LFG tool or a cross server one negatively impact you?
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Skirata_Kal
05.07.2012 , 10:05 AM | #910
Quote: Originally Posted by TKMaster View Post
Or, as i've been saying for years....x-server LFG with like server types....that way i dont have to get into an argument everytime ppl from PVP servers shows up in PVP gear and proced to tell me thier not changing gear and how thier going to sodomize my children if they die <-----(WoW examples that happened to me every other LFD group)
I have no huge objection to the keeping it to server types suggestion. In my WoW experience, I can count on one hand the number of xserver groups that were as truly bad as you describe and I've encountered similar groups in TOR without a xserver tool. There were other bad WoW groups where it was all about what the dps meter said (amazing actually since for a very long time, the dps meter didn't work correctly in xrealm groups lol). Most of my xrealm groups were positive experiences though. The one concession I'll make to the 'community crowd' is that many of those were non-social, enter the dungeon, down the bosses and leave, with nothing more than 'Ready?" and "Thx for group" entering the chat box. Then again, many of my same server groups in WoW were that way too.

I play TOR with a small group of RL friends now, since the guild of 175 we had on our 'old' Republic server died (never more than 4 on at a time for their last 3 weeks). Last night we ran an fp together which was fun. Sadly, our schedules are such that we can only get together like that one or two times per week. It would be nice to be able to get groups for fp's more often during those times we're playing when the others aren't available, without spending significant amounts of playing time, spamming 'LFG' in fleet (or that useless Flag yourself for group 'tool'). And can someone please explain to me again how wanting to get more groups makes someone 'unsociable?'

Please note that much of my above comments are aimed at the naysayers in general and not specifically at the person I quoted.
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