Premades are responsible for failed MMOs

Completely agree OP, I have canceled as well, for various reasons but the PvP imbalance and the state of warriors definitely being one of them.

A smash spec jugg/guard with a healer can fend of and defeat groups of dps. The damage output is pretty crazy when most classes try hard just to get the 5k medal and usually fail; warriors can not only hit much higher than 5k but it's an AoE -- just brilliant stuff guys! Throw in a marauder to single target people around or add another smash spec to the mix and the speed goes to ludicrous.

Was not having fun any more after 1.2 so I also pulled the plug -- hope they get the point with so many people leaving, despite the marauder and jugg apologists.

This is stupid, why do you want 8 people to not coperate in a team vs team fight ?
Dont ban premades, ban solo quee instead. Whats so hard about adding a few players you think performed well in wz to your friend list and quee together ?

To an extent this is true. Playing on a very low populated server with a premade against pugs and random rep premades when we won atleast 9 games out of ten just made the people that still tried to play pvp even though the really low population made people people just quit trying anymore.
The result? Been 5 days since the last warzone was played on my server. And it's a 'pvp' server :P

My favorite part of this thread is that people feel that playing with other people should be optional in a genre that is defined by being able to play with other people.

Premades ruin pvp for YOU. Personally my guild and I hate playing against random baddies and relish the times we play against good premades.

The sad, cold hard truth of the matter is simply this:

There aren't enough people playing to further split up the queues by separating premades from pugs.
There are about 10 times more servers than needed right now, splitting the pool too thin.

This is the worst MMO for PvP that I have ever seen. Period.
Bringing rated play into this craptastic PvP system is going to be hilarious.

Good luck, Bioware.

[ ] Queue Solo

Says it's optional.

People are playing with other people, they just don't always play with RL friends, because most RL friends aren't dumb enough to want to play ToR for it's PvP. It's KOTOR 3, and oh look there's some real people in it.

MMOs used to be about making virtual friends as well as getting your reallife friends to join you on your adventures. It was NOT about logging on to grind.

Interesting topic. I tend to only pvp at endgame after burning out on raiding in that other game. Hopefully with cross-server queuing & rateds, the solo queue will only have solo queuers. But I'm fairly sure we will get back-filled into premade matches b/c premaders are too impatient to wait in queues while their group queue fills up. I'm not going to make any hasty (sic) decisions until I see how that pans out.

Imagine a game where you were FORCED to queue with 8 people. You'd have to actually talk to people on your server and make friends if you actually wanted to do anything in the game. HOW TERRIBLE!

Solo-queuers are the problem with the game not the premades.