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Lack of Variety in PVP is the biggest issue IMO(constructive)

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Lack of Variety in PVP is the biggest issue IMO(constructive)

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VoidSpectre
05.04.2012 , 07:50 PM | #1
Don't get me wrong I like warzones and they can be extremely fun. I'm having a great time now, but I think for staying power there needs to be variety in the types of PVP people can participate in. I don't know how well anyone can see them selves only PVPing inside the same 4 or 5(if they release another one) warzones for months, even if they love the PVP like I do.

Right now we only have warzones.

Some games have warzones, open world, RVR, arena, . Let's address what we can do to fix all of these absences

1: Open world PVP: Make a cross faction daily area. Right now all the questing and even dailies are entirely too separate. We need something that gets players of both factions in the same area every day because they want to do these dailies for whatever reward. The Rakghoul plague had this briefly on Tatooine but was unfortunately just an event.

2: RVR: Ilum is the best possible place for this. Make it smaller, make objectives matter, make the fortress able to be sieged and you will have something many players love to participate in.

3: Arena: A single 4v4 bracket with a map or 2 and no rewards would be simple and not upset the arena haters.



Warzones are great but people who like PVP usually like more than just one kind. The solution to PVP content isn't just pump out more warzones and rated warzones, because that still leaves something to be desired in other areas. Variety please.

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Kilikaa
05.04.2012 , 08:07 PM | #2
Variety is coming. Bioware is late to the party but they are finally realizing they need to put more effort into their pvp game. they'll add things, they just need to play catch-up now. Better late than never, right?

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VoidSpectre
05.04.2012 , 08:13 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilikaa View Post
Variety is coming. Bioware is late to the party but they are finally realizing they need to put more effort into their pvp game. they'll add things, they just need to play catch-up now. Better late than never, right?
yeah I hope they just don't think warzones are the only answer to increased PVP

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Robochomp
05.04.2012 , 09:57 PM | #4
I do not think RvR should be limited to just Illum, I would personally like to see ALL planets have their share of RvR opportunities.

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LillyWhiteS
05.04.2012 , 10:55 PM | #5
Agree with the op...

While Warzone PvP is good, it isn't enough and shouldn't be the main PvP, it's secondary and for variety, like in Warhammer, same with rated warzones, it will be a good addition, but it's still secondary compared to big scale RvR PvP.

Also as it stands the Warzones don't have enough variety in themselves, need something like an Alterac Valley, bigger participant numbers ( full ops at least would be good ) and map size, different objective type etc and of course more Warzones in general, so we have a good rotation.

Primary PvP needs to be big scale objective based stuff, stuff that will last hours, fort sieges and stuff like that, like in Warhammer, it also creates a great community with multiple warbands/ops working together.

While I ain't interested in Arena myself, who is the best or best group etc, I don't mind it being in the game as long as they don't get stat gear, only get titles and appearance stuff and no more and isn't a priority, big scale RvR should be the number one aim.
Need a Variety of Warzone size/participants/objectives, something like an Alterac Valley.

Warhammer may have messed it up, but the idea of forts and the reward was sound, fix Ilum.

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VoidSpectre
05.04.2012 , 11:44 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by LillyWhiteS View Post
Agree with the op...

While Warzone PvP is good, it isn't enough and shouldn't be the main PvP, it's secondary and for variety, like in Warhammer, same with rated warzones, it will be a good addition, but it's still secondary compared to big scale RvR PvP.

Also as it stands the Warzones don't have enough variety in themselves, need something like an Alterac Valley, bigger participant numbers ( full ops at least would be good ) and map size, different objective type etc and of course more Warzones in general, so we have a good rotation.

Primary PvP needs to be big scale objective based stuff, stuff that will last hours, fort sieges and stuff like that, like in Warhammer, it also creates a great community with multiple warbands/ops working together.

While I ain't interested in Arena myself, who is the best or best group etc, I don't mind it being in the game as long as they don't get stat gear, only get titles and appearance stuff and no more and isn't a priority, big scale RvR should be the number one aim.
i just don't want one aspect of PVP to be it. add all kinds IMO.

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VoidSpectre
05.08.2012 , 06:05 AM | #7
I am sad to say I cancelled my subscription. I like the PVP; I really do. But the same 4 warzones with long queues, dead open world, no RVR, and no arena are just not enough. I hope someday I can come back to this game and that on that day they have some abundant PVP content. Until they I will probably lurk these forums occasional and check out GW2 even though I didn't really want to(at least they have different kinds of PVP)

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JediDuckling
05.08.2012 , 06:08 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by VoidSpectre View Post
Don't get me wrong I like warzones and they can be extremely fun. I'm having a great time now, but I think for staying power there needs to be variety in the types of PVP people can participate in. I don't know how well anyone can see them selves only PVPing inside the same 4 or 5(if they release another one) warzones for months, even if they love the PVP like I do.

Right now we only have warzones.

Some games have warzones, open world, RVR, arena, . Let's address what we can do to fix all of these absences

1: Open world PVP: Make a cross faction daily area. Right now all the questing and even dailies are entirely too separate. We need something that gets players of both factions in the same area every day because they want to do these dailies for whatever reward. The Rakghoul plague had this briefly on Tatooine but was unfortunately just an event.

2: RVR: Ilum is the best possible place for this. Make it smaller, make objectives matter, make the fortress able to be sieged and you will have something many players love to participate in.

3: Arena: A single 4v4 bracket with a map or 2 and no rewards would be simple and not upset the arena haters.



Warzones are great but people who like PVP usually like more than just one kind. The solution to PVP content isn't just pump out more warzones and rated warzones, because that still leaves something to be desired in other areas. Variety please.
its because there is no open world pvp or at leats no point to open world pvp. ive sujested a great idea in my sig link on how they could salvage Illum for some awesome open world pvp.

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VoidSpectre
05.08.2012 , 06:10 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by JediDuckling View Post
its because there is no open world pvp or at leats no point to open world pvp. ive sujested a great idea in my sig link on how they could salvage Illum for some awesome open world pvp.
yeah I wonder if it's too late? will they be able to salvage world PVP. can they have any RVR or arena and keep the PVPers? many people left. I am leaving. I want to come back I just don't see why I should with such a shallow PVP system. Even though I absolutely love the classes and the combat

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DarthKhaos
05.08.2012 , 06:30 AM | #10
  1. Development takes time.
  2. Arena blows
  3. And Arena BLOWS!!!
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F2P? NO THANKS
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