Undying Rage: The Final Word

I don't lose to Marauder/Sentinel. Then again, I play one, so I know exactly how to beat them. /shrug

Then again, I didn't lost to Mara/Sents before I played one.

no need to rationalize things for balance right? Don't even consider that it may be a necessary tool to balance the fact that mara/sents don't have a real 4 second stun, a push or more than one 30 meter attack???

They could double the cooldown on UR/GBtF and Maras/Sents would still be fine... and a little closer to balanced compared to other classes.

Playing against bads doesn't make marauder over powered.

You think running after ranged is something a good melee player does? No we do the smart thing and LOS to help bridge the gap. So c'mon

As a former ranged player YOU CAN, I REPEAT YOU CAN, do damage to someone and take absolutely 0 damage. Your defense is in your ability to stay at ranged you just need to be smart about it.

Mara's don't need to be nerfed... Both my mains can handle them just fine. Just save your stun/roots/snares for when they effectively pop UR...

Quote: Originally Posted by Varicite View Post
Yeah, you see this a lot:

"The SECRET to beating a Marauder. CC them when they use their defensive CD."

1) Okay, so you CC them during their defensive CD. That's 5 seconds.

2) Then CC them when they use their next defensive CD (unless you like doing 20% less damage for the next 30 seconds). That's another 6 seconds.

3) Then just run around trying to find them before they open on you again w/ their third defensive CD.

4) I hope you're not a Powertech or a class that depends on a weapon damage attack, because you'd better have another CC ready for their 4th defensive CD. That's yet another 6 seconds.

5) And of course, you just power through their 5th defensive CD, but you'll be doing 25% less damage or missing half the time for another 6 seconds while they do full damage.

6) While CC'ing them during all of these CDs, make sure to continue to do damage to them to outdamage the bleeds that are critting you and healing the Marauder.

So as you can see, it's really quite easy to beat a Marauder. You just need to be able to CC them for a total of 16 seconds w/out filling their Resolve bar, and do full damage to them the entire time so that you aren't killed during that time.

I guess that's why people use marauders to tank against PvE bosses.

All these imbalance (with the exception of operative at launch) are imaginary. People can't l2p, or they've been stuck in thinking 'a tank must be like this or have this" mentality they can't adopt.

*** are you talking about? Good or bad has NOTHING to do with it. Yeah in a perfect world I sit at range and free cast my azz off, but how good of a marauder are you if you let me do that? Yes, most infact will chase me until I die, and that aint too long because once again, getting in melee is EASY, our only counter is cc/root whether early or late(because you are so smart) and we run or die. You are Agent Smith, I'm Morpheus. See an imbalance there?


NO in a perfect world you want us to be able to sit in your face and beat on you while you free cast and win. You guys don't even try to kite, you all just sit back and yell "UNLIMITED POWER/PEBBLES!!!!" and you want to win by being able to channel your attacks with someone beating you in the face, doesn't work like that yo, in no game does it work like that, doesn't in WoW, doesn't in rift, no you away with your bad argument.

LOL it always goes back "be smart about it".. Like it matters.. The truth of the matter is "if a good marauder wants you dead, you are dead at a clip over 80% of the time.." there is no other class that has that type of talent and sniper (mind you they have cover options that other classes don't)is your only feasible counter. then you lump something so misappropriated like UDR to the mix.

No it does come down to being smart about it and knowing how to play. Undying rage is imbalanced but the ability to not have any form of CC hit you isn't? A bubble that absorbs 4k damage that you can use multiple times in a single fight isn't Op'ed? "oh herp derp i casted bubble on me twice in that fight and used a medpack!!!" hey there was 10k extra hp the marauder had to burn through not counting if you got heals off.

Use your brain and learn to play and stop thinking you can face tank melee and should have the ability to face tank melee. Go get a balance premade group and a VOIP client and talk to eachother and make it a team effort like every other good player does because your crappy QQ about how you suck at pugging is FAIL and NEW FLASH! THIS IS A TEAM GAME.

No it does come down to being smart about it and knowing how to play. Undying rage is imbalanced but the ability to not have any form of CC hit you isn't? A bubble that absorbs 4k damage that you can use multiple times in a single fight isn't Op'ed? "oh herp derp i casted bubble on me twice in that fight and used a medpack!!!" hey there was 10k extra hp the marauder had to burn through not counting if you got heals off.
Use your brain and learn to play and stop thinking you can face tank melee and should have the ability to face tank melee. Go get a balance premade group and a VOIP client and talk to eachother and make it a team effort like every other good player does because your crappy QQ about how you suck at pugging is FAIL and NEW FLASH! THIS IS A TEAM GAME.