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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:17 PM | #601
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
You want to see a fast way for guilds to fall apart? Players wouldn't need to log on at scheduled times anymore and do guild activities because they can now do them whenever they feel like. And if you say this never happened I will be the first to call you a liar
That's patently false. My guild will continue to schedule its raid and other events and players will continue to participate.

Now if the basis of the guild was a simple loot grab rather than being formed for all the "right" reasons, yes, I can see that happening. But I hold little pity for them. They got what they asked for and can continue to do so through the LFR tool. After all, they only got together to chase phat purple pixels, right?

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Skirata_Kal
05.03.2012 , 02:17 PM | #602
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
You want to see a fast way for guilds to fall apart? Players wouldn't need to log on at scheduled times anymore and do guild activities because they can now do them whenever they feel like. And if you say this never happened I will be the first to call you a liar
My WoW guilds flourished after LFD was released. We had more people get raid geared faster which gave us a bigger pool to choose from so if someone wasn't feeling well or not in the mood one night, a replacement was quickly found without drama. And we had multiple raid groups where before the tool we had one A-team and lots of drama. The only guilds that 'suffered' were the LEET ones who were used to being among the few on their realms who cleared content. Suddenly they weren't so special anymore because others could clear content without their permission. That, IMHO was a good thing! It wasn't until after Cata, long after lfd was released, that many of us quit the game for reasons that have nothing to do with LFD.
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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 02:18 PM | #603
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Please stop calling it an LFG Easy button. Scrap the Easy. It won't make anything easier. It will make things less tedious and boring, but that's not easier..
Welcome to MMORPG's. They are called timesinks for a reason. One thing that none of you have admitted is that all you want the tool for is to chain run your way to 50 while collecting your precious loot along the way.

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 02:18 PM | #604
Quote: Originally Posted by Skirata_Kal View Post
That, IMHO was a good thing! It wasn't until after Cata, long after lfd was released, that many of us quit the game for reasons that have nothing to do with LFD.
You quit because you couldn't cake walk through the raids anymore

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:19 PM | #605
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
So you only want things because they make life easier and more convenient for you, then try and claim you are not lazy? Does anyone else see the irony in this?
Not being lazy and not waiting to stand around doing nothing are two completely different things.

In fact, wanting to stand around doing nothing (while waiting for someone to answer your LFG spam) is the very definition of laziness, isn't it?

I want to get into the game and get stuff done! I do not want to wait around to start getting stuff done. That's the opposite of lazy.

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 02:19 PM | #606
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Please stop calling it an LFG Easy button. Scrap the Easy. It won't make anything easier. It will make things less tedious and boring, but that's not easier.
So making something easier is not making something easier?

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
The game is a very good game with the exception of its lack of quality of life features. Speaking for myself, I have already cancelled my subscription. Between stupidly signing up for 6 months and the free month BioWare gave me to pad their subscription counts for their end of fiscal year reporting, I'll have the chance to play all the class stories I'm interested in. After that point, I'll be mainly interested in running flashpoints. If it remains as tedious to get a group when that time comes as it is now, I simply won't renew my subscription.
So you are also in that boat and think a game is only good if it caters to you and makes your life easier. Seeing how many people here just want everything handed to them on a silver platter, it is of no wonder why Demon and Dark Souls were not huge successes.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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turjake
05.03.2012 , 02:20 PM | #607
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
You want to see a fast way for guilds to fall apart? Players wouldn't need to log on at scheduled times anymore and do guild activities because they can now do them whenever they feel like. And if you say this never happened I will be the first to call you a liar
Because most people are happiest if they have a second job in a online game during their free time, instead of being able to decide themselves when to play? Not sure how long these job guilds last anyway. Those I have seen seem to change lineup all the time when people burn out or get bored or get a life.

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 02:21 PM | #608
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
So making something easier is not making something easier?



So you are also in that boat and think a game is only good if it caters to you and makes your life easier. Seeing how many people here just want everything handed to them on a silver platter, it is of no wonder why Demon and Dark Souls were not huge successes.
Again I ask you, how is removing tedium and boring, valueless stuff making the game easier?

Say I'm going to climb a rock wall at my gym. If I stand in line for 20 minutes before I get to do that, that won't make climbing the wall any harder than if I get to walk right up to it, right?

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 02:22 PM | #609
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Not being lazy and not waiting to stand around doing nothing are two completely different things.

In fact, wanting to stand around doing nothing (while waiting for someone to answer your LFG spam) is the very definition of laziness, isn't it?

I want to get into the game and get stuff done! I do not want to wait around to start getting stuff done. That's the opposite of lazy.
Lazy is wanting to have the game create the group for you.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Skirata_Kal
05.03.2012 , 02:22 PM | #610
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
It doesn't matter what you PLAN to do. Because you have stated that you are only going to stay if they put in a LFG easy button, this means that you see this game as being garbage only because it does not have one. Why stay paying for a game that you are going to quit anyway?
Nope that's not what I said, but at this point, believe what you want. If you want to believe I'm in a corner jumping up and down crying and throwing a temper tantrum, go ahead if it makes you feel better. My wife and I are having a good laugh at that one btw.
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