Undying Rage: The Final Word

Just one minor question, How come every Marauder says use a Knockback to counter their obscene damage output and then save your stun for IWIN Mode?

I am Powertech, I have 1 4 second stun that breaks on damage contact. That's right it breaks on damage. No other 4 second stun breaks on damage as quickly as the PT one. I have an Operative, an Assassin, and a Slinger. All of their Mezzes and stuns are full duration except occassionally they will break on a stun.

For those of you who have ever played a PT. Electro Dart is the worst stun in the game, and is normally used as an interrupt since it's CC is perhaps the worst out there. I stun you, it breaks if there is a dot on you. If I want to keep you in place I use Carbonize, but that's a 2 sec CC so pretty much used as a let me set up my next attack.

The fact that I have to save all of my CC, because that's all I have for one attack is ridiculous. BTW, Mara's stun always deals damage, Electrocute and Carbonise do not, and any damage breaks them.

The Mara who keeps telling Powertechs to use a knockback during your super human damage mode has never ever played or even understood a Powertech. We have the worst CC (outside of Mercs), no Knockback, only a single gap closer in Grapple that is on a 45 second CD (it doesn't work if you have even a portion of resolve Jet Charge is only for tanks so is not used if you actually want to kill something), and deal just about the same damage as you. We have one shield that mitigaties 1/4th of the damage yours does and is on a 2 minute CD. So essentially we do alot of damage, but can be killed just as fast.

Btw, if one more person says we can do damage from 30m, I will shoot them with my blaster pistol. You have one decent attack from over 10m and it's on a 15 second CD. Rapid Shots is really weak unless 300 damage is considered awesome, and not every single PT is Pyro so we don't all have Plastique which is also 15 second CD.

TLDR: PT's have the closest damage output to you, but have a single defensive CD, and two very short very weak CC's. You have 3 very good and even great defensive cooldowns, that you don't have to spec into. If I want more than that one CD, I have to spec into tank spec and give up a ton of damage. yeah, Mara's are so not OP. HAHA

Just one minor question, How come every Marauder says use a Knockback to counter their obscene damage output and then save your stun for IWIN Mode?

I am Powertech, I have 1 4 second stun that breaks on damage contact. That's right it breaks on damage. No other 4 second stun breaks on damage as quickly as the PT one. I have an Operative, an Assassin, and a Slinger. All of their Mezzes and stuns are full duration except occassionally they will break on a stun.

For those of you who have ever played a PT. Electro Dart is the worst stun in the game, and is normally used as an interrupt since it's CC is perhaps the worst out there. I stun you, it breaks if there is a dot on you. If I want to keep you in place I use Carbonize, but that's a 2 sec CC so pretty much used as a let me set up my next attack.

The fact that I have to save all of my CC, because that's all I have for one attack is ridiculous. BTW, Mara's stun always deals damage, Electrocute and Carbonise do not, and any damage breaks them.

The Mara who keeps telling Powertechs to use a knockback during your super human damage mode has never ever played or even understood a Powertech. We have the worst CC (outside of Mercs), no Knockback, only a single gap closer in Grapple that is on a 45 second CD (it doesn't work if you have even a portion of resolve Jet Charge is only for tanks so is not used if you actually want to kill something), and deal just about the same damage as you. We have one shield that mitigaties 1/4th of the damage yours does and is on a 2 minute CD. So essentially we do alot of damage, but can be killed just as fast.

Btw, if one more person says we can do damage from 30m, I will shoot them with my blaster pistol. You have one decent attack from over 10m and it's on a 15 second CD. Rapid Shots is really weak unless 300 damage is considered awesome, and not every single PT is Pyro so we don't all have Plastique which is also 15 second CD.

TLDR: PT's have the closest damage output to you, but have a single defensive CD, and two very short very weak CC's. You have 3 very good and even great defensive cooldowns, that you don't have to spec into. If I want more than that one CD, I have to spec into tank spec and give up a ton of damage. yeah, Mara's are so not OP. HAHA

This guy get´s it.


And to you all great or considering yourself great/good players remove the UR/GTBF Ability from your quickbars for one WZ or if you want to go to the extreme for a day maybe then you see what the rest of use have to deal with. Bet none of you have the balls for it.

You realise this dmg reduction doesn't work if they are atking you and you're the one who applied it?

/lol

Except that against a good team, the moment you throw out that AE taunt everyone targets you and you instantly explode (this is true for juggs and PTs, both of whom are paper thin unless wearing all of the tanking pvp gear and therefore hitting like a wiffle bat).

You know, the tankier, heavy armor PvP class that is supposed to trade damage for survival? Yeah, we do less damage than our medium armor DPS only cousins (perfectly acceptable) yet they also live three times longer as well (unacceptable).

Taunting is useless if you can't weather the incoming hate from smart teams for more than three seconds, sometimes even with a pocket healer struggling to keep you alive.

Sent/Mara dps is fine. Their defensive CDs should go to juggernauts/guardians (possibly should require speccing into) and they can have ours. Classes fixed.

Oh and btw... Mercs/Commandos are a dps class that vastly underperforms Sent/Mara burst, gets no taunts, and has one awful defensive CD. Balanced?

I hardly think Maras and Sents have better group utility. They don't have guard. Juggs do. Yes, Predation and Transcendence are indeed quite awesome, but taunting, guarding and Intercede certainly make a big impact on any battle.

This goes for even DPS Juggs too. I'm Vengy specced on my Jugg, but more than 80% of my time is spent in Soresu with guard on someone important. It's just too good, and I have too much survivability even when focused to not use it. Yes, Maras are much better at resetting a fight, but that does nothing in terms of objective-based pvp. Getting away from near death with 5% won't stop someone from capping a door in Voidstar; you're better off just dying and hoping for a well-timed gate when you spawn. Maybe you'll get lucky and the heal pickup is available, and then you can go back in and delay or even kill the attackers, but it's not a wise idea to plan strategy around the availability of pvp pickups.

I hate this argument.

No other class at present requires this sort of "hold onto your cc at all costs or lose" mentality to combat. Not every class has CCs on constant demand, and often have to use them for a variety of other means (Is a squishy supposed to just eat your full ravage?). Being forced to save your CC just to combat one class' OP defensive god mode is absurd. Not to mention in many WZs so much cc is flying around in melee range that a marauder/sents resolve bar is full by the time UR is popped anyway----or they simply use their CC break and you're boned in either case.

5 seconds of immunity from damage EVEN WHILE CCed is still 5 seconds of immunity from damage, during which you cannot be killed. No other class enjoys such a privilege, and if you're playing smart you're just going to force camo away when the stun ends anyhow.

This ability is too good. It needs to be rebalanced, or the CD dramatically increased to bring it in line with other defensive CDs. Most defensives in game are much, much worse than UR yet have much longer CDs. Again, how is that balanced?