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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 12:19 PM | #531
Quote: Originally Posted by Skirata_Kal View Post
LFG tools may not be standard if you're looking at the entire history of MMO's, but I do believe it is becoming the standard.
You believe they are becoming the standard because you WANT them to be standard. And you also try and claim that you are still enjoying the game even without a LFG tool even though your signature states specifically that you will stop playing the game if they do not implement it. This is saying that you need it in your MMO for that MMO to be satisfactory to your standards. If you want an MMO that has a x-server LFG tool, go to one that already has it. Don't try and bring it to other MMOs that don't need it.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Skirata_Kal
05.03.2012 , 12:20 PM | #532
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
No, I did those raids, and they were hard for Wrath standards. But were not hard at all if the group had a clue. Only problem I had with doing raids and dungeons in WoW is the community. There is a reason that they put the "Don't stand in fire" hint on loading screens.
LOL, yea I had some of those people too when I PuG'd, but then there were some awesome pugs, not to mention the many fun guild runs. Then again, I encountered bads and goods before the LFD tool came about too. The thing about the people who QQ'd about "Wrath is too easy" that got me laughing the most though was when they were saying Ulduar was too easy...even BEFORE the world first Algalon occured! LMAO
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 12:23 PM | #533
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
You believe they are becoming the standard because you WANT them to be standard. And you also try and claim that you are still enjoying the game even without a LFG tool even though your signature states specifically that you will stop playing the game if they do not implement it. This is saying that you need it in your MMO for that MMO to be satisfactory to your standards. If you want an MMO that has a x-server LFG tool, go to one that already has it. Don't try and bring it to other MMOs that don't need it.
By that logic, SWTOR should never add another feature. Sorry, that's asinine.

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MasterKayote
05.03.2012 , 12:23 PM | #534
Quote: Originally Posted by Katahn View Post
1. Ability to /friend characters (not accounts) regardless of server, /whisper them (regardless of server) on those characters, and /invite them to groups prior to queueing for XLFG.

2. Includes an ignore-like "blacklist" that will hold an unlimited number of people and only blocks grouping with them when using the xlfg tool (I might want to blacklist someone mid-run but not ignore them because the latter would impede group communications).

3. Only pools servers into LFG queues based on their type (RP, PvE, RP-PVP, PVP) and doesn't ask people to group with people who don't share the most broad of gaming preferences at a minimum. After all, why have server types if they aren't going to matter?

4. Includes a limited number of free character transfers to facilitate joining the guild of friends from another server you happened to meet via cross-server grouping?

5. Rewards you for pre-forming your own groups rather than taking randoms.

Call for these features to be added and I'll support you.
Wow! A constructive post!

Push come to shove, I wouldnt be so against xserver if they also included these PLUS

6) Pools from your server first for 10-15 min before looking elsewhere.

7) A rating system and the ability to choose the min rating to be paired up with. One where you cannot vote for the same person more than once per week. Or month, which ever works best. (Accountability) Sure some may be aholes and just vote down everyone, some wont vote ... but much like any internet vendor rating out there after you get a good number of votes on your account, its a pretty good rating for others to judge you by. Short; if this system is accurate and good enough for some people out there to depend their entire income on (career ebayers), its good enough for a game.

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 12:23 PM | #535
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Why is it wrong for me to want to get into a flashpoint after a 15 minute wait? Why do you want me to have to wait over an hour? How does that benefit you, me, and all the rest of the game's players?
If everyone on the server is using the current LFG feature, which is VERY useful even though it isn't x-server, there won't be much wait time. Simply because it doesn't involve the game forming the group for you and teleporting you magically to the flashpoint doesn't mean it is useless.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Odesra
05.03.2012 , 12:28 PM | #536
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Best case, everyone uses the piece of monkey ***** tool that's in the game now, I still wait 1.25 hours for a group.

I suppose that's not so bad on a character I'm leveling.

What happens if I want to run something on one of my 50's? I get to do eye-bleedingly boring daily missions? Yay.

Why is it wrong for me to want to get into a flashpoint after a 15 minute wait? Why do you want me to have to wait over an hour? How does that benefit you, me, and all the rest of the game's players?
The absence of a lfg tool only beneifts the people that want to keep on feeling special that they can acquire certain gear, while everyone else waits for 1hr+ for a group for a normal lvl50 run. The LFG tool will happen regardless of these people's fake negativity towards it.
Also anyone that whines that it brings in baddies/ninjas to get good gear, who cares, just carry or kick that baddie and Master Loot the drops.

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 12:28 PM | #537
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
If everyone on the server is using the current LFG feature, which is VERY useful even though it isn't x-server, there won't be much wait time. Simply because it doesn't involve the game forming the group for you and teleporting you magically to the flashpoint doesn't mean it is useless.
It's only useless to the useless players who want instant gratification. Next it will be free lvl 50's because they deserve it for having another lvl 50.

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 12:29 PM | #538
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
If everyone on the server is using the current LFG feature, which is VERY useful even though it isn't x-server, there won't be much wait time. Simply because it doesn't involve the game forming the group for you and teleporting you magically to the flashpoint doesn't mean it is useless.
"Magical teleportation" is irrelevant in this game. All flashpoints are off fleet - a few minutes from the port-in point. It's not the evil you make it out to be. It's a time saver. Tell me, what exactly is so horrid with eliminating valueless, rote, boring activities like traveling? Do you use fleet pass? Do you use quick travel? Do you use the shuttles BW put out on the planets to quick travel to Fleet?

No, the tool really isn't very useful. I've been trying to use it off and on since game test and my feedback has always been the same: why did the devs even bother with it? It's horrid, unhelpful, and less useful than spamming LFG into general.

And yes there still will be just as much wait time. As I mentioned earlier, everyone who wants to do flashpoints is already sitting on fleet spamming. Using the piss-poor current LFG tool won't increase the number of people wanting to do flashpoints. The wait time will not change.

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 12:30 PM | #539
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
It's only useless to the useless players who want instant gratification. Next it will be free lvl 50's because they deserve it for having another lvl 50.
Too true. Funny thing is that someone told me WoW does that now. So yes, people will claim they "need" it because they can do it there.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Cortese
05.03.2012 , 12:31 PM | #540
Bottom Line,

The WOW LFG Tool has been so bad and has ruined the game so much that they released a Looking for Raid utility.


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um ok.


I am done, im canceling right now and yes you can have my stuff, dont leave your name I already know who you are, I only see the same 3 players on the fleet each night.