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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

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Skirata_Kal
05.03.2012 , 12:01 PM | #521
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
And many of those "top guilds" were not even playing WoW in vanilla or hardly in BC. If you are talking about having a community drop off, WoW actually had a drop-off of players in late BC, early wrath because the people from vanilla saw that Blizzard was doing nothing but destroying the game that they knew and loved. Yes, it was not very significant and continued growing, but the majority of people currently playing it do not care about the world and lore that is the world of Warcraft. They just play it because there friends play it. I had a friend once that equated WoW to bro-gaming, and he is right.
These top guilds I speak of are practically professionals who get world and server firsts. In other words, they're at a skill level that the QQers will never reach. And nice generalization of 10 million people lol (which again I'm not part of anymore)
Forum troll, former fanboy, later a "hater", recent returnee

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Skidrowbro
05.03.2012 , 12:02 PM | #522
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
That's why I want .
And that is why all you complainers have lost all credibility

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 12:02 PM | #523
Quote: Originally Posted by Skidrowbro View Post
And that is why all you complainers have lost all credibility
Troll still trollin' I see.

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 12:06 PM | #524
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
It's not going to improve significantly with a single-server LFG tool. The people who want to group understand that the way to get one is to spam fleet, which is the tool I used. Single-server LFG will produce waits roughly equivalent to what we have now, though maybe with less boredom factor because we won't be limited to standing on Fleet.
Again, people just need to learn to start using the LFG feature that is already in the game. Guess what, you can put yourself in LFG status and still run around doing things without sitting in fleet spamming. Main problem is people do not use it which is why sitting in fleet spamming is the main way to get groups. If the game automatically put you into the LFG status and then brought up the /who window with LFG already searched whenever you mentioned a flashpoint for around a month, people would then understand that the game already has one built in and maybe people will actually start using it.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 12:07 PM | #525
Quote: Originally Posted by Skirata_Kal View Post
These top guilds I speak of are practically professionals who get world and server firsts. In other words, they're at a skill level that the QQers will never reach. And nice generalization of 10 million people lol (which again I'm not part of anymore)
So they are professionals at rolling their faces on their keyboards?
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Skirata_Kal
05.03.2012 , 12:10 PM | #526
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
The only reason you think they need them is because YOU want them. Ever heard the old story about comparing "needs" and "wants"? Because you are trying to claim that something you WANT is something that you NEED. When in fact it is not needed in the slightest for the game to function (otherwise the game would have died during beta and early access) If you want to play a game that has an LFG tool, go back to WoW or find another MMO that has it. Having an LFG tool is not something standard in MMOs. You just want it to be.
No logical argument so you resort to putting words in my mouth that weren't there, lol. I never said, nor implied that the game cannot function without xserver LFD (I played during beta and am still playing and numerous times, even in this thread have said I'm still enjoying the game). There's also a difference between "Should" and "Need". Learn that difference before interpreting another person's words next time. No, I'm not going back to WoW because I quit that game for reasons that have nothing to do with the xserver LFD. LFG tools may not be standard if you're looking at the entire history of MMO's, but I do believe it is becoming the standard. And unlike you, yes, I will concede that much of what I'm saying is based on my own opinion which is based on my experience. And one more thing, my opinion would be the same even if I was getting same server groups on a regular basis (which I was at the beginning of this game)
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Skirata_Kal
05.03.2012 , 12:12 PM | #527
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
So they are professionals at rolling their faces on their keyboards?
I can't speak for Cataclysm raids, but if you're saying 25man Rotface, Putricide, Blood Queen and Valithria (just to name a few) could be done just by rolling your face on the keyboard then you're either trolling or never did those raids.
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Kemosobe
05.03.2012 , 12:14 PM | #528
Quote: Originally Posted by Skirata_Kal View Post
I can't speak for Cataclysm raids, but if you're saying 25man Rotface, Putricide, Blood Queen and Valithria (just to name a few) could be done just by rolling your face on the keyboard then you're either trolling or never did those raids.
No, I did those raids, and they were hard for Wrath standards. But were not hard at all if the group had a clue. Only problem I had with doing raids and dungeons in WoW is the community. There is a reason that they put the "Don't stand in fire" hint on loading screens.
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
Quote: Originally Posted by KROSSDARK View Post
Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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Timesjoke
05.03.2012 , 12:15 PM | #529
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I'm not upset, and I am not the one cryng about it. You are. Stop projecting.
I am here raising a valid concern even BW has admitted partly to, you are here to complain about us voicing our concerns, obviously that makes you the crybaby.
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Two months puts us well into "early summer". Please consult your calendar for more details.
It was a vague comment and let's consider that that kind of vague timetable is rarely met in any video game company.

And again, there is no gurantee that it will fix the real problem of not having anyone to group up with.


Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
About 15% of servers are actully "empty". Another 15% are LIGHT and not optimal at all. The remaing 70% are running STANDARD or higher during prime play time. The ability to transfer off of empty servers IS needed. But your allegation that it is most servers is incorrect exaggeration.
My server shows "standard" most of the time and there is nobody to group with. I have no idea how they come up with their designations but however they do it, "standard" still means you can't find a group.

Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Your server is empty. I get that. Sucks. It is what it is at this point. You will get server transfer WAAAAAAY before the game sees a cross server LFG for PvE. Stop whining and crying. Either find something to do until server transfers are live, OR unsub until they are. Rocket science it is NOT.
Stop crying about other people crying......lol.

I find it funny as hell that you come here to complain about other people complaining, does that not seem a little childish on your part? At least we are paying customers who have a valid issue to voice......what do you have? A need to blindly defend BW? A deep seated hate for anyone who has a valid complaint? Completely bored so you are just being a troll?

The point is if we want a cross server tool we havbe to lay the groundwork early and often. This way two months down the road when we still can't form groups they can't say this request is a new issue. This is done in politics all the time where the people keep voicing their concerns over and over and over time, the leadership starts to listen to the logic behind the requests and makes it happen. Take women's suffrage for example, it was always the right thing to do logically, but it took constant pressure and long debates to make the closed minded decision makers to change their minds to do the right thing.
No matter how hard you try, you can't beat time.

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DarthTHC
05.03.2012 , 12:16 PM | #530
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
Again, people just need to learn to start using the LFG feature that is already in the game. Guess what, you can put yourself in LFG status and still run around doing things without sitting in fleet spamming. Main problem is people do not use it which is why sitting in fleet spamming is the main way to get groups. If the game automatically put you into the LFG status and then brought up the /who window with LFG already searched whenever you mentioned a flashpoint for around a month, people would then understand that the game already has one built in and maybe people will actually start using it.
Best case, everyone uses the piece of monkey ***** tool that's in the game now, I still wait 1.25 hours for a group.

I suppose that's not so bad on a character I'm leveling.

What happens if I want to run something on one of my 50's? I get to do eye-bleedingly boring daily missions? Yay.

Why is it wrong for me to want to get into a flashpoint after a 15 minute wait? Why do you want me to have to wait over an hour? How does that benefit you, me, and all the rest of the game's players?