Someone explain the LFG tool hate?

I understand what you're saying in the first paragraph of your post, but I'd like you to consider an alternative.

If the search isn't limited by server and it has all the other features you suggest, why can't a RP player and a PvP player who meet randomly via X-LFG and find they're compatible friend each other and continue to run X-LFG content together? At some point, the RP player might want to try PvP or the PvP player might get bored or frustrated of it and want to "settle down" to RP and then the server move and guilding up could happen. (BTW, in my former RP guild in WoW, we had a lot of former PvP denizens and they were awesome so it does happen.)

Bigger pool = more potential to meet cool people, right?

Tried this for almost 3 hours, no group, there goes that theory.


This is not about being lazy, all you elitists think that if you let casual players get included to groups you will lose your status as "special" or something. Even BW had admitted that many servers are too low for groups, the problem is even with mergers or transfers you will still have a narrow window of activity for about 2 to 4 hours on each server because BW will not have balanced playtimes for accounts due to letting people randomly swap servers and for anyone who does not play during those narrow 2 to 4 hours, groups will still be extremly difficult to find.

I'm not upset, and I am not the one cryng about it. You are. Stop projecting.

Two months puts us well into "early summer". Please consult your calendar for more details.

About 15% of servers are actully "empty". Another 15% are LIGHT and not optimal at all. The remaing 70% are running STANDARD or higher during prime play time. The ability to transfer off of empty servers IS needed. But your allegation that it is most servers is incorrect exaggeration.

Your server is empty. I get that. Sucks. It is what it is at this point. You will get server transfer WAAAAAAY before the game sees a cross server LFG for PvE. Stop whining and crying. Either find something to do until server transfers are live, OR unsub until they are. Rocket science it is NOT.

I don't want a copy of WoW either. I quit that game for a reason. But as I said before there are some things they got right. You speak of your anecdotal experience. I speak of mine. I know many more people, in game and IRL who want the xrealm LFD because of how it improved our experience in WoW (we had mostly good groups with a few bad ones). You call us lazy? lol. We played WoW since vanilla, many of us have played many other MMO's like UO and EQ to name a couple. We know what MMO's were like before the LFD tool. Taking advantage of a convenient tool that all modern MMO's should have is not laziness...anymore than NOT wanting it simply makes you an elitist d-bag (there's those generalizations again).

Lol, and you wonder why nobody wants to group with you?

And many of those "top guilds" were not even playing WoW in vanilla or hardly in BC. If you are talking about having a community drop off, WoW actually had a drop-off of players in late BC, early wrath because the people from vanilla saw that Blizzard was doing nothing but destroying the game that they knew and loved. Yes, it was not very significant and continued growing, but the majority of people currently playing it do not care about the world and lore that is the world of Warcraft. They just play it because there friends play it. I had a friend once that equated WoW to bro-gaming, and he is right.

My Republic server is consistently rated as "Standard" yet never has more than 40 people in fleet during peak. I also have some abandoned imp toons on that same server that I check once in a while and the Imps aren't much better. And no, there aren't droves hiding on the other planets. My Imp server usually has 150-180 on fleet during peak, Republic on that server is non-existent and it too is labeled consistently as standard. In regards to your use of the word Standard, I hope you'll forgive me for quoting a line from one of my favorite movies:

"You keep using that word! I do not think it means what you think it means!" (been ages so I may not have got it exact)

Anecdotal evidence...

Last night I wanted to run a few flashpoints on my mid-30's Sniper on a Standard server. I set myself up on Fleet and set my laptop up to play Poker. I started this at about 6:30pm server time. There were around 130ish people on fleet throughout the evening.

In between playing hands of Poker on my laptop, I watched chat and sent the occasional LFG message into it.

By the time 11:00 had rolled around, I had run 2 flashpoints. Both groups were pretty good.

So that 4.5 hours of ingame time, broken down as less than 2 hours in flashpoints and more than 2.5 hours standing around bored as heck (if I wasn't playing Poker). Or you could think of it as an average of 1.25 hours of waiting per flashpoint.

It's not going to improve significantly with a single-server LFG tool. The people who want to group understand that the way to get one is to spam fleet, which is the tool I used. Single-server LFG will produce waits roughly equivalent to what we have now, though maybe with less boredom factor because we won't be limited to standing on Fleet.

I don't know about a lot of players, but personally I'd prefer to do something more interesting with those 1.25 hours of wait per flashpoint... like maybe run another flashpoint.

That's why I want X-LFG.

The only reason you think they need them is because YOU want them. Ever heard the old story about comparing "needs" and "wants"? Because you are trying to claim that something you WANT is something that you NEED. When in fact it is not needed in the slightest for the game to function (otherwise the game would have died during beta and early access) If you want to play a game that has an LFG tool, go back to WoW or find another MMO that has it. Having an LFG tool is not something standard in MMOs. You just want it to be.

Your claim a LFG tool will completely destroy this game is the opinion, I stated facts that the LFG tools never hurt WoW. All you have to do is look at WoW and the server reports to see the truth of that.





lol, My guild completed 7/8 before everyone had the raidfinder gear, we are doing hard modes right now.

WoW has been using hardmodes for a very long time, both before and after their LFG tools. It allows a balance between offering casuals a chance to see content and the challenge the more serious raiders desire. From your comment I can tell you have never been a serious raider or you would not have made such a big mistake like that.