Agent: sealth, stun-lock, 3-shot on 927 expertise

It astounds me how anyone can still lose to Op/Scounds anymore after myriad nerfs. Have you guys considered that maybe you just suck?

Linear increase of damage in relation to expertise has positively effected Ops/Scoundies as well. It's definately not at the massive levels of bullshi* damage when Ops/Scoundies first conquered the WZs, but it is a bit of a comeback, and the difference from 1.15 is most easily felt in the first opening attacks.

AHHH, theres your answer: you´re a sage.

In my experience a sage/sorc is a free kill for me on my jugg unless they have much better gear than me or are guarded.

Anyone who dies in 2-3 GCDs, regardless of the class that is supposedly doing this mythical damage, doesn't belong pvping. At all.

The OP should just have his account banned, in order to improve the quality of life of whatever poor server he plays on. I'm sure the gains of the many can outweigh the one.

Didn't happen.

In order for an Operative to fully stunlock someone for a whole 5.5sec, they would have open with Hidden Strike>Stun, otherwise it's not even close to a 'stunlock' (the fact that you couldn't keyboard turn and face them in time doesn't mean you were 'stunned'). Then they'd also have to crit Hidden Strike, Backstab, Shiv and Lascerate back-to-back. Which is more than 3 GCD.

Go troll somewhere else.

Utter drivel with zero combat logs to back up your pie in the sky thinking. I on the other hand do have combat logs and have proven that the dps on a Ops conceal has reduced dramatically. Our opening hit now averages around 2.3k, it has been nerfed so hard back stab nearly does as much damage but back stab has had a 33% cd nerf.

As shown previously, an average opening rotation from an Ops concealment spec using all 105 power i.e. no regens, averages 8k damage. And that requires stealth, one positional and blowing this uber stun everyone is scared of.

If you are losing to a an Ops now in 1v1 you seriously have no idea how to pvp. I am now heal spec and do not fear ops in the slightest, they are by far the easiest class to heal through. It;'s rare I even bother blowing any defensive cd's. Hots will heal through their dps.

I actually do not know if it's funny or sad now the state of ops.

ok just to put some realism into this. TOFN is the most populated and busiest server by a mile (EU)

There is only 1 Scrapper/Conceal that I know players are wary of in WZ's and he is able to burst pretty well geared 1200ish exp people to half health in the opening and seems to be able to pressure them into mistakes etc.

I can only assume A. he is pretty good at his class and B. he is geared (the fact that he is always running with Jedi Knight helps)

Now he will deinitely drop a 927 exp before they really have a chance to get 1 possibly 2 abilities off.

Having said all that willyshoot above at least posts actual numbers and by and large they are the experience of most operatives these days hence 90% of all ops are Heal spec now.

Compared from which point? From the point where the bullshi* level of damage penetration and buggy double-hit damage was alive and kicking? Or from 1.15?


*snicker* and what, other classes can deal loads and loads of damage given over roughly similar time period without having to use any cooldowns with just white damage skills or something?


Ops are fine.

It's no use guys. He discovered our secret...

Screenshot for prove: http://i.imgur.com/5pprB.jpg

Normally I just let my dog play and still ending up as #1