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Agent: sealth, stun-lock, 3-shot on 927 expertise

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Agent: sealth, stun-lock, 3-shot on 927 expertise

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Dmasterr
05.02.2012 , 12:24 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by ssbi View Post
Here u are just wrong, i mean there are things like resilience, there is cool thing as force stun -> they use breaker -> Force Cloak -> Mind Maze -> Meditate, there are even things to keep them in range as a tank but.. but... You know it's a 1v1 situation, for the rest of situations u just ve should get healed.

If u die from ops as Shadow Tank in Survivor gear there is somethings wrong, not the class balance wise.

That was my point towards him.

Since i don't die on my tanks to operatives, like ever. (excluded when they open on me and i have 5k hp )

He is either lying or a terrible pvp player if he consistently gets 3shot by operatives while he is wearing tank gear.
(while the defensive stats don't help much, the extra endurance found exclusively on tanking mods do)

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RJMazz
05.02.2012 , 12:44 PM | #52
Post a combat log or it didn't happen.

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xDementedx
05.02.2012 , 12:49 PM | #53
Operatives got nerfed to the point that they are only healing traited now or rolling new classes, if you are getting killed by them so quickly...L2P. Slow -> Force Run -> Bubble -> LoS -> Heal up. They can't cleanse your slow.
GeorgZoeller: "If we ever reach the point where every class thinks they are completely balanced and everything is great, I'll take the red pill and unplug from the matrix."

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mangarrage
05.02.2012 , 01:03 PM | #54
For starters I honestly do not care what damage operatives do honestly

Do they stunlock people to death or near death regardless of class, skill or expertise? yes
And if they dont kill you you are like 40-30% and get killed anyway

Refute all you want I see it all the time, my friend plays one and he ganks people the whole wf, every wf.

All this kiddie nonsense about everyone must have low expertise or the op gets lucky and pops an adrenal lol my friend doesn't even use adrenals and he's a biochem

Bad ops now without their iwin buttons rerolled simply because they can't play without the iwin button, good ops are still wiping the floor with people

Simply put the adjustment to the ops was negated by the expertise change and ttk

It is the same reason why mauraders are doing silly damage, as well as pyros and juggs

But no one connects the dots

Once people are in their max gear again alot of these complaints will disappear until then we have to still deal with the same op classes we had to deal with before. And in addition we also have to deal with all the rerolls from classes that think they got nerfed.

And on top of everything I blame the players, not bw for their mess. I have played every class but I pvp on worst class for pvp, well worst spec for class in pvp- mm sniper
People cannot stand a challenge they just want to play the op class to hide the fact they are just flat out bad
And finally the stupidest thing in the world. No one who plays an op class will ever admit they are op they will just come post that the person/people complaining about their class can't play.

Welcome to the forums
btw snipers need a buff

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Exzileforgotten
05.02.2012 , 01:09 PM | #55
Darn you teams of Operatives! Zoeller batter up sir people are unsubbing!

Swing that nerf bat!

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ShadowOfVey
05.02.2012 , 01:24 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by MadBernieSkills View Post
I have a 44 Healing Operative and since level 40, I've been totally OP. I bought all of the PVP level 40 gear. My weapons and relics are level 43's. I've been crushing in the warzones. I've been in 19 wins and 4 losses since hitting 40. All pugs. I always top the healing charts and end in the middle on damage.
Just yesterday I dueled a 44 powertech. There was 0% chance he could win. I could easily out-heal his damage. About half of my fighting was healing, half damage. I ended the fight full health and all my energy.
Then I dueled a 44 marauder. I did not have to heal even once. I ended the fight with half health. I doubled his damage output with my healing spec. Both of these guys were dps specs. Maybe they were bad, I don't know. Maybe dueling doesn't count since healing isn't 30% less? But the second fight I didn't even have to heal.

I hate to say it but Operatives are OP right now, at least in the low 40's bracket. If I can do that much burst damage, I'd hate to see what a DPS spec could do. I have 33 points in the healing tree.
Gear matters.

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ssbi
05.02.2012 , 01:38 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by mangarrage View Post
For starters I honestly do not care what damage operatives do honestly

Do they stunlock people to death or near death regardless of class, skill or expertise? yes
And if they dont kill you you are like 40-30% and get killed anyway

Refute all you want I see it all the time, my friend plays one and he ganks people the whole wf, every wf.

All this kiddie nonsense about everyone must have low expertise or the op gets lucky and pops an adrenal lol my friend doesn't even use adrenals and he's a biochem

Bad ops now without their iwin buttons rerolled simply because they can't play without the iwin button, good ops are still wiping the floor with people

Simply put the adjustment to the ops was negated by the expertise change and ttk

It is the same reason why mauraders are doing silly damage, as well as pyros and juggs

But no one connects the dots

Once people are in their max gear again alot of these complaints will disappear until then we have to still deal with the same op classes we had to deal with before. And in addition we also have to deal with all the rerolls from classes that think they got nerfed.

And on top of everything I blame the players, not bw for their mess. I have played every class but I pvp on worst class for pvp, well worst spec for class in pvp- mm sniper
People cannot stand a challenge they just want to play the op class to hide the fact they are just flat out bad
And finally the stupidest thing in the world. No one who plays an op class will ever admit they are op they will just come post that the person/people complaining about their class can't play.

Welcome to the forums
btw snipers need a buff
Yeah your friend feel himself brave as a lion while aproching Sage with recruit gear.

Those mystirious OP friends... we all have them.

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Scoobings
05.02.2012 , 01:41 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Samaul View Post
The seriously overpowered imperial agent

Seatlh
Stunlock
Massive burst dps

The ability to stunlock a player with over 900 expertise and kill them in 2-3 GCDs or less than 10 seconds. Multiple stuns, allowing stunlock while delivering overwhelming damage. The stunlocked target has absolutely no chance. I thought that patch 1.2 was supposed to make pvp better, not worse?

I left wow to get away from stunlocking rogues.
You're misspelling Stealth too much, and it's going to give your thread away. Be just a little more subtle and spread out the typos more.
- Kaeljen, 50 Powertech - Mal'Shek, 50 Juggernaut
- Adien, 50 Assassin - Jest, 50 Sniper
- Kijaar, 15 Sentinel

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Samaul
05.02.2012 , 05:20 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by xDementedx View Post
Operatives got nerfed to the point that they are only healing traited now or rolling new classes, if you are getting killed by them so quickly...L2P. Slow -> Force Run -> Bubble -> LoS -> Heal up. They can't cleanse your slow.
We are not playing the same game. No one can use abities while stunlocked. DPS Operative = IALWAYSWIN button.

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Samaul
05.02.2012 , 05:22 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Exzileforgotten View Post
Darn you teams of Operatives! Zoeller batter up sir people are unsubbing!

Swing that nerf bat!
New people join a warzone, get stunlocked and burst down in 2-3 GCDs and they never go back.