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Premades are responsible for failed MMOs

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RobNightfall
05.02.2012 , 11:04 AM | #81
Seriously? Groups of people playing together are responsible for failed MMOs? Take a moment to examine the logic of this statement and get back to us OP.
Edited because the devs appear to have fixed at least 80% of the crap that was pissing me off.

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Ghamsar
05.02.2012 , 11:06 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Xsorus View Post
I bolded the most important part of this post, This is basically the point of his post that everyone should of gotten too and said, Gee.. this guy is an idiot for sure...
lol, i just went through your post history

You really like to jump in on anti-premade chat....any specific reason? You support Premades, tell others L2P to if they can't take out premade groups all the while talking about how you can kill 3 healers with your tank.

Yeah, thanks for your input.
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necromag
05.02.2012 , 11:06 AM | #83
The problem is not premades but the lack of cross server wz's meaning the player pool is too small and the lack of a system that pits premades vs premades only.

Many i know who enjoy pvp in this game have given up on it,going at it solo and getting roflstomped by the same premades over and over gets old fast.

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RobNightfall
05.02.2012 , 11:08 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Ghamsar View Post
I understand what you are saying but you are missing the key Issue: MOTIVATION

The premade players become premade to win...win is their only goal, win at all costs

Like the Steroids in Baseball, it's about success...that's all...don't believ the other crap it's all smoke and mirrors trying to hide their MOTIVATION.

This Motivation makes it okay in their minds to hack and exploit as well.

that's were you ideal misses what the premade mentality will do

They will NOT QUE GROUP...they will synchronize SOLO ques...because they want to God mode PWN NOOBS...they don't want competition...why in Open world is it 5-6 vs 1-2?

The GANG thug mentality is what a premade is....there is no NOBILITY in them....why do you think most are Sith to begin with? It speaks volumes.
LOL first of all you're actually looking for nobility of spirit in a game. This is a game. Nobility of spirit manifests in real life circumstances, not a game.
Secondly, I'm a Republic player and I run with my friends in a pre-made because I like them. I have a sneaking suspicion that Empire players just might feel the same way. After all, MMOs are a social experience.
And once again, LOL at your nobility comments.
Edited because the devs appear to have fixed at least 80% of the crap that was pissing me off.

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Astarica
05.02.2012 , 11:10 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by necromag View Post
The problem is not premades but the lack of cross server wz's meaning the player pool is too small and the lack of a system that pits premades vs premades only.

Many i know who enjoy pvp in this game have given up on it,going at it solo and getting roflstomped by the same premades over and over gets old fast.
Like I posted earlier, if you take the poulation of Starcraft 2 and divide it up to 100 or 500 servers, you'd see people posting about how premades ruin Starcraft 2 since there's only going to be maybe 5 of them on whatever your 'server'' is.

Of course in the real world Starcraft 2 didn't stupidly divide up its population into unsustainable fragments, but MMORPG continue to do this.

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Thegriss
05.02.2012 , 11:14 AM | #86
Usally when we are running pre made sub 50 pvp in guild we are all on vent..... This makes us much more orginized and even if we are playing agaist a team that has several higher level characters on it we win because we communicate. Blame BW for not putting in game VC. Even tho most in game VC system suck it would still help with the lack of communication pugs have VS premades.

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Obtena
05.02.2012 , 11:20 AM | #87
Even after 9 pages, I'm still trying to digest the fact that someone is legitimately complaining that players are grouping to win in an MMO. I don't think it matters if it's PVP or PVE or even RP ... if you can't accept the fact that players team to win in an MMO, you shouldn't be complaining about it, you should get yourself a dose of reality. That's the whole concept of the genre. You either embrace it and beat them at their own game or you better remove yourself from the whole experience if you can't handle it. It's completely stupid to suggest 'fixing' things related to concept of teaming in an MMO. Not teaming for team-able activities should never allow anyone soloing to compete with teams in that same activity. Like it or not, there are rewards for adhering to the structure of the game. If you don't team for WZ's, don't expect to be able to compete. Simply get your participation daily and go home. The OP better rejig his expectations accordingly.
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Sporticus
05.02.2012 , 11:23 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Obtena View Post
Even after 9 pages, I'm still trying to digest the fact that someone is legitimately complaining that players are grouping to win in an MMO.
He may be complaining, but he has no legitimate points.
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PloGreen
05.02.2012 , 11:24 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Obtena View Post
Even after 9 pages, I'm still trying to digest the fact that someone is legitimately complaining that players are grouping to win in an MMO. I don't think it matters if it's PVP or PVE or even RP ... if you can't accept the fact that players team to win in an MMO, you shouldn't be complaining about it, you should get yourself a dose of reality. That's the whole concept of the genre. You either embrace it and beat them at their own game or you better remove yourself from the whole experience if you can't handle it. It's completely stupid to suggest 'fixing' the concept of teaming in an MMO. The OP better rejig his expectations accordingly.
Pretty much what I was thinking.

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Ghamsar
05.02.2012 , 11:24 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by RobNightfall View Post
And once again, LOL at your nobility comments.
so you think it's common to try to use exploits?

Premades types did the Ilum valor farming, they are cheats.

Again just google search SWTOR Hacks....what's the name of the site that comes up first? Please think about that, and understand exactly how they are a cancer to MMO gaming.
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