Dear Expertise, You Are Terrible

Let's take a minute to do a thought experiment. Expertise both increases damage you do to other players and reduces damage you take from them while also buffing healing so that is (supposedly) roughly equivalent to PVE levels. So here's a funny idea.

DON'T SPLIT YOUR PLAYER BASE IN HALF.

Yeah, you heard me. If you remove expertise from PVP gear and replace it with relevant stats you end up with roughly the same stat spread on PVP and PVE gear, meaning gearing is more a choice about what set you want to wear rather than what set you HAVE to wear.

If you really need the PVPers to be mechanically better, give the PVP gear set bonuses. Noticeable, but not overwhelming. Because honestly, when a fully geared DPS can sit on a guy in PVP gear for half a minute and barely scratch him, you have a severe design flaw.

A geared, well-played character, whether in PVP or PVE gear should never be able to be ignored. Sadly this is the case right now.

You then tier PVP and PVE gear the same way they are now - meaning skill still leads to rewards. Oh look, now your entire player base can play both halves of the game rather than having one half gimped against the other half at all times.

It also means the PVPers can PVE. I honestly don't see the problem with this.

It doesn't help that when you introduce a stat that negates the skill of the other side you create a gap that will only grow with time. On an imbalanced server, that gap will never recover.

tl;dr
Expertise is a bad stat and has no actual purpose aside from splitting your player base. Discuss.

Expertise is the reason level 50 warzones are so much less fun than 10-49 warzones.

What a well-reasoned and thought-out response, and such a sterling and rational reason for keeping a bad stat in the game. Truly, you are a poet.

Ok, enough of the sarcasm.

nah our money is worth just as much as those that pve.

what carrot on the stick would they implement for pvp if they took out the expertise gear and relied on buffs?

because there needs to be something there to keep grinding from getting boring. something there to feel like you accomplish something.

your response is like pvpers asking for them to remove top tier raid gear so someone in green gear can do raids efficiently.

well what would be the purpose of doing a raid more than once (and seeing the content) if you were not trying to get gear?

This always makes me laugh. 10-49 isnt balanced either. Some classes develop early and other much later.

Even when equally geared, TTK is fast. The issue is not expertise, its other mechanics and as soon as you have 1100+ expertise this becomes very obvious.

I didn't say 10-49 is balanced, I said it is more fun. You've even said it yourself, TTK is fast at 50. It's too fast.

With the way expertise scales at the moment the more gear people have the shorter the battles become. This is complicated by the fact that healing also scales with expertise which effectively means the more expertise people have the more powerful healers are getting.

You can see it in battles now where healers HP bars spike from 100% -> 20% -> 100% in rapid succession. This didn't happen in 10-49. You would wear down a healer and interrupt a few heals to get them down. At 50 if you let one big heal through it heals 40% of their HP bar and interrupting one heal can be the end of that healer.

10-49 was a lot more fun because battles were (ignoring healing) longer.

This right here. The reason expertise even exists is to level the playing field between the hardcore raiders and those who don't run all the HM Ops every week. If there were no ”PvP” stat, then the raiders decked out in the latest tier would be facerolling everything in sight.

But if you don't want expertise in play anymore then that's fine. Just give the PvP'rs access to top tier (Campaign ATM) gear through WZs.