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Andryah
05.01.2012 , 04:55 PM | #961
Quote: Originally Posted by Fraeblood View Post
It should be public enemy #1. In the 1-2 months when they do start it, there is a good chance it will be too little too late. So many raiders already left, and the lack of recruit pools on just about every server is pushing the rest of us to quit too. Not to lack of content but due to lack of players. ure the casual people who still can't kill NiM SOA don't care, but he was dead months ago for us, and now we can't do HM Denova cause we can't find 8 people who can handle it.
So IMO they don't have it as a top priority right now.
Nonsense. Actually, more like a specious argument voiced out of some form of personal frustration.

You make it sound like once you unsub that you cannot resub. People who like the game but disliked being on a low pop server can, and very likely will, resub and move their characters to other servers so they can continue playing a game they like in a server population level that is comfortable for them.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 04:56 PM | #962
Quote: Originally Posted by Fraeblood View Post
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/t...able-at-launch

Not that it means anything really, but I thought it was funny. It is something that would save a lot of people from unsubbing, but it will prob be too little too late. While other companies realize how vital it is for an MMO to survive.
I saw that. First time in MMO history. So you really can't fault BioWare, or you'll have to fault every other MMO but TERA.
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Andryah
05.01.2012 , 04:57 PM | #963
Quote: Originally Posted by Emrill View Post
You know what they say about opinions and a certain body part everyone has.
Here's a scary thought..... what if he has multiple opinions?
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 04:57 PM | #964
Quote: Originally Posted by Emrill View Post
Yay, my work day is done so I can go see if my server is dead still.

Damn there are a lot of really whiny posts since I last looked. People complaining that the transfers are going to happen a certain way and they aren't happy about it. That's damn funny when we don't have any specifics besides a target time frame of early summer.
Haha, no kidding.
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carnac_fett
05.01.2012 , 04:59 PM | #965
A short time ago, a couple of MMOs (one being DC Universe Online, don't remember the other) tried a cute little tactic when it came time to do something about server population.

Instead of making people transfer off a server and then closing it, or merging two servers into a new one, they introduced a bunch of new servers that were hosted on better hardware and could handle more players with less lag. DCUO called them 'Megaservers'.

I think Bioware could do the same thing. Create a dozen brand new 'super' servers, and transfer people from 10 or 11 of the game's current servers onto each 'super' server. This would also give Bioware a second chance at naming their servers. Hopefully they would come up with some good names, and prevent people the agony of having to tell their friends they play on 'Helm of Graush' , "Empress Teta', or 'Rwookrrorro'.

It's not a complete PR victory - 123 servers reduced to 12 is going to sound bad to some folks, regardless of the fact that the 12 new servers are 'super' servers - but it would probably come off as less of a dire move than merges or closing. It certainly would have less of a 'moving people off sinking ships' feel to it.
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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 05:01 PM | #966
Quote: Originally Posted by carnac_fett View Post
A short time ago, a couple of MMOs (one being DC Universe Online, don't remember the other) tried a cute little tactic when it came time to do something about server population.

Instead of making people transfer off a server and then closing it, or merging two servers into a new one, they introduced a bunch of new servers that were hosted on better hardware and could handle more players with less lag. DCUO called them 'Megaservers'.

I think Bioware could do the same thing. Create a dozen brand new 'super' servers, and transfer people from 10 or 11 of the game's current servers onto each 'super' server. This would also give Bioware a second chance at naming their servers. Hopefully they would come up with some good names, and prevent people the agony of having to tell their friends they play on 'Helm of Graush' , "Empress Teta', or 'Rwookrrorro'.

It's not a complete PR victory - 123 servers reduced to 12 is going to sound bad to some folks, regardless of the fact that the 12 new servers are 'super' servers - but it would probably come off as less of a dire move than merges or closing. It certainly would have less of a 'moving people off sinking ships' feel to it.
According to the server list, TORstatus.net, and current subs, it'll be more like 123 servers reduced to 90. My server is a STANDARD, about 20th on the most populated server list, and really can't take many more people without pushing it to queues.
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carnac_fett
05.01.2012 , 05:08 PM | #967
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
According to the server list, TORstatus.net, and current subs, it'll be more like 123 servers reduced to 90. My server is a STANDARD, about 20th on the most populated server list, and really can't take many more people without pushing it to queues.
Yeah, 12 might be a bit too low a number, but I think Bioware could definitely fit everyone who plays the game into 60 servers or fewer. There are some real desolate servers right now. There have been occasions where I've logged in and found that the only two servers at Standard were Fatman and Harbinger. That's why I rerolled on Harbinger.

People's expectations of what a healthy and comfortable server population is are colored by their past MMO experience. It also seems to me that TOR's population ceiling for servers is quite a bit lower compared to those of other contemporary MMOs like World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, and Everquest 2. 'Heavy' in TOR feels like 'Medium' for other games. That's why I'm having a blast on Harbinger, the game finally feels like an MMO now.
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JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 05:21 PM | #968
Quote: Originally Posted by carnac_fett View Post
Yeah, 12 might be a bit too low a number, but I think Bioware could definitely fit everyone who plays the game into 60 servers or fewer. There are some real desolate servers right now. There have been occasions where I've logged in and found that the only two servers at Standard were Fatman and Harbinger. That's why I rerolled on Harbinger.

People's expectations of what a healthy and comfortable server population is are colored by their past MMO experience. It also seems to me that TOR's population ceiling for servers is quite a bit lower compared to those of other contemporary MMOs like World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, and Everquest 2. 'Heavy' in TOR feels like 'Medium' for other games. That's why I'm having a blast on Harbinger, the game finally feels like an MMO now.
Here's the problem with that:

BioWare said last week that subs have not declined, but concurrent playtimes have. That means that if you group people up on too few servers, then just about every one of them will have queues during World Events and expansions.

I'd really rather not. If all servers were made Standard like mine (150 on Fleet every day at peak, getting 24-mans together within 20 minutes spamming only planet General and LFG, PvP queues short) then people can't complain.
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evildestroyer
05.01.2012 , 05:32 PM | #969
Quote: Originally Posted by Fraeblood View Post
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/t...able-at-launch

Not that it means anything really, but I thought it was funny. It is something that would save a lot of people from unsubbing, but it will prob be too little too late. While other companies realize how vital it is for an MMO to survive.
Its even funnier that in GW2 you also have transfers, heck we had server transfers in BETA.

If GW2 can have transfers already in beta why couldnt SWTOR have them? Bioware knew server pops will drop ( i hope they did) so if they had transfers i am sure MANY people wouldnt have left.

I already unsubbed 2 weeks ago, i uninstalled the game few days ago even with free 30 days i will not play anymore. I am sick of a empty server with pvp queues up to a hour, where its impossible to get a FP going let along Ops. And why should i reroll and invest more time when Bioware is at fault?

All i can say, if we had transfers or at least merges i would still be playing and i am sure many people are in the same situation as me.

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Timesjoke
05.01.2012 , 05:34 PM | #970
Quote: Originally Posted by Alkiii View Post

If you're not happy with your server population, why don't you re-roll? Are you so attached to a pixel character that you have separation anxiety?
I would dare to guess that only a very tiny segment of those who have purchased the game are kids or out of work people with nothing better to do then level toons on several servers till they find one that is active.

I am not so attached to the pixels as I am attached to the very limited time I have to play video games being flushed down the toilet through no fault of my own. I did not create twice as many servers as is needed for a healthy population.



Quote: Originally Posted by Alkiii View Post
Gamers aren't gamers these days ... they're mostly over opinionated wind-bags with a keyboard. You should be ashamed of yourselves. It's a game ... play it to have fun or move on to the next entertainment venue.
Just like you should be ashamed of yourself for attacking those who do not confrom to your idea of the perfect player. You are happy, fine, this discussion is about those in the majority who are on servers without enough people to party with. How do we "play it to have fun" when there is nobody to play with? This game was marketed as a MMO right?

Do you know what a MMO is?

We are concerned because this MMO is missing the MM part. Other than a small window of 2 to 4 hours a day, most servers are completely barren.
No matter how hard you try, you can't beat time.