Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

FREE Character Transfers are Coming!

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > General Discussion
FREE Character Transfers are Coming!

Ensquire's Avatar


Ensquire
05.01.2012 , 04:06 PM | #951
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRedNalroni View Post
But they cant force 100% of people to depart a server so they can shut it down. If they do so, that is, in effect a server Merge. Even if its one server merging into numerous others.
They, as far as I know have not stated the specifics of which servers are entitled to a free server transfer. Im basing speculation off Current practices in other MMO's.
I doubt they'll keep them all open, if i was in the business, I select the 30% lowest populated servers determined for each server a default refugee server (so if you haven't played by the time of transfer you go to a predetermined server) but prior to that i make it known to everyone that, this is what where doing. In closing each selected server would have a designated refugee server, so not all dead servers would be merged into one. To further reiterate, you would have a selection of servers to go to, not necessarily the default server they choice, because choice is everything and i could see that offending many people
-----------------------------
R.I.P. BIOWARE
OCT 11, 2007
-----------------------------

Fraeblood's Avatar


Fraeblood
05.01.2012 , 04:11 PM | #952
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/t...able-at-launch

Not that it means anything really, but I thought it was funny. It is something that would save a lot of people from unsubbing, but it will prob be too little too late. While other companies realize how vital it is for an MMO to survive.

Aarlardin's Avatar


Aarlardin
05.01.2012 , 04:23 PM | #953
I have a question for all of you who are so vehemently dissatisfied with this game. No need to reply in the thread, just ask it to yourself. How much time per day, on an average day, did you spend playing this game before you lost your faith? Half an hour? An hour? Three hours? Myself, I average less than an hour a day; MUCH less on some weeks, when I just can't invest the time. I have a bunch of things going on in my life, and SWTOR sometimes factors in when I want to unwind, but sometimes I choose other things instead. Reading, spending time with my girlfriend and/or friends, going out on the town, watching a movie, etc.

I consider myself slightly more than a casual gamer, and this game has tonne of interesting and enjoyable conent, which I'd say I've only experienced maybe 25% of. This is after being subscribed since not long after launch. My level 50 character is on one of the dead servers, and I'll admit it is a bummer to play in a ghost galaxy, but I don't find it all that terrible. In fact, I continue to level an alt on that same server just because I've really enjoyed the storyline. I recently started an inquisitor on a more heavily populated server, and use him to get my teamwork fix. I still have a grand old time. The dev teams says they are working on getting the character transfer system viable, and I believe them when they say it will be out this summer. With such an overwhelming community backlash, why wouldn't they? Early summer is not very far off, and meanwhile the game still has a lot of great things to offer.

The way I see it, there are two ways in which a person can become unhappy with this game. The first is if it is failing to be the MMO you had hoped and dreamed for, and you simply cannot get enough enjoyment from the story content until they address the issues to make your $15 a month worthwhile. If this is the case, to each his own, and I'm sorry things didn't work out (I mean no sarcasm, honestly). The second way is if you've devoted a staggering amount of time to the short life this game has had thus far, burned your way through damn near all the content, and are going mad with boredom. In this case, I'd recommend you diversify your activities a bit more. Find a hobby, spend more time out and about, get a job with more hours, or what have you. Because this is, afterall, a GAME. It was designed to be enjoyed in moderation. More content has come, and is coming, but it does take time.

Anyway, I know this is a tl;dr for a lot of you, but I hope some gave it a look through.

HeavensAgent's Avatar


HeavensAgent
05.01.2012 , 04:23 PM | #954
Quote: Originally Posted by Fraeblood View Post
While other companies realize how vital it is for an MMO to survive.
As did Bioware. Educate yourself before making statements about the situation.

JeramieCrowe's Avatar


JeramieCrowe
05.01.2012 , 04:32 PM | #955
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRedNalroni View Post
But they cant force 100% of people to depart a server so they can shut it down. If they do so, that is, in effect a server Merge. Even if its one server merging into numerous others.
They, as far as I know have not stated the specifics of which servers are entitled to a free server transfer. Im basing speculation off Current practices in other MMO's.
It's not even "in effect" a server merge. This is important, because when JO mentioned they are not going to do merges, you're misunderstanding him because you're using the word "merge" incorrectly, thus skewing his context.

A server merge is combining two server clusters together, the software, the economies, the loot tables, everything. It is buggy, convoluted, and results in more unhappy players because of the near-unplayable condition for a while. THIS is what James Ohlen is saying they are not going to do, and thank gawd!

What they are going to do is probably the MMO standard: move everyone off of a low-pop server and shut it down. RIFT did it very successfully not even a year ago.
Allix Crowe - Vanguard Trooper -/- Ethavan Crowe - Smuggler Gunslinger -/- Malrath Crowe - Powertech Bounty Hunter -/- Boslo - Jedi Knight Sentinel -/- Jiao-gen Pall - Jedi Knight Guardian -/- Landen Tanarr - Jedi Consular Sage -/- Vaelyth Kinti-kaar- Sith Warrior Juggernaut -/- Oteln'erose'thu - Imperial Agent Sniper -/- Zandur Tuum - Cathar Knight

Mallorik's Avatar


Mallorik
05.01.2012 , 04:38 PM | #956
Quote: Originally Posted by Fraeblood View Post
http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/t...able-at-launch

Not that it means anything really, but I thought it was funny. It is something that would save a lot of people from unsubbing, but it will prob be too little too late. While other companies realize how vital it is for an MMO to survive.
It is a stupid idea these days that server transfers = fail, all mmos shrink at launch, swtor's shrinkage would probably be barely noticable if they had released 50 less servers at launch.

Andryah's Avatar


Andryah
05.01.2012 , 04:41 PM | #957
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRedNalroni View Post
But they cant force 100% of people to depart a server so they can shut it down. If they do so, that is, in effect a server Merge. Even if its one server merging into numerous others.
Interesting. Because that is exactly what Rift has been doing for about 9 months now, and it works quite well.

AND NO IT'S NOT a server merge. A server merge is where the MMO producer decides to merge two servers, and takes all the characters from one server and moves them to the other server, whether the player wants to move or not. In a server transfer process, the MMO producer issues a notice to vacate a server in X days and people are free to move their characters to any eligible server that is open for transfers. There is a difference, even though it acieves the same end result (ie: removing a struggling server from the farm and encouraging people to play on fewer and more densely populated servers.

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRedNalroni View Post
They, as far as I know have not stated the specifics of which servers are entitled to a free server transfer. Im basing speculation off Current practices in other MMO's.
Correct, which is why anything you say is speculation, just like everyone else. That said, if you apply logic to the problem that needs to be addressed....... then you want to increase the population densities on servers, and that means characters transfer and some servers with already very low populations are better closed then left open. The obvious target servers for transfering to are going to be the still healthy STANDARD servers which have a good amount of headroom left before they are full. It isn't going to be depopulating healthy servers to try and boost the population on unhealthy servers. They may indeed allow transfers off of full servers like Fatman, but once again it will be to healthy STANDARD servers, not unhealthy light servers. So, while we do not know the specifics of their plan yet, they do have a track record of doing things logically (regardless of the lunatics that claim otherwise), so it makes sense that they will follow a model already proven in the industry (Trions model for Rift).
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

Fraeblood's Avatar


Fraeblood
05.01.2012 , 04:47 PM | #958
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
As did Bioware. Educate yourself before making statements about the situation.
It should be public enemy #1. In the 1-2 months when they do start it, there is a good chance it will be too little too late. So many raiders already left, and the lack of recruit pools on just about every server is pushing the rest of us to quit too. Not to lack of content but due to lack of players. ure the casual people who still can't kill NiM SOA don't care, but he was dead months ago for us, and now we can't do HM Denova cause we can't find 8 people who can handle it.
So IMO they don't have it as a top priority right now.

Emrill's Avatar


Emrill
05.01.2012 , 04:47 PM | #959
Yay, my work day is done so I can go see if my server is dead still.

Damn there are a lot of really whiny posts since I last looked. People complaining that the transfers are going to happen a certain way and they aren't happy about it. That's damn funny when we don't have any specifics besides a target time frame of early summer.

Emrill's Avatar


Emrill
05.01.2012 , 04:53 PM | #960
Quote: Originally Posted by Fraeblood View Post
So IMO they don't have it as a top priority right now.
You know what they say about opinions and a certain body part everyone has.