What is worse: Quitting match or quitting trying

1) It's obviously irked you to the point you came to the forums and started a discussion on it. They are not quitting to annoy other players, that much is clear. If you believe you can make a difference as a solo player in a losing match, I think those of us who play for the challenge rather than the easy wins and rewards appreciate that. No point poking everyone else to make this point though, they simply cannot appreciate it. Why can't you talk to your team ingame and poke them into sticking things out? Would it be a waste of your time? =P See, there's also an irony in you running to the forums to complain about a problem you could attempt to rectify yourself ingame, isn't there?

2) That's the snidey tone I mentioned. You're on a forum in an MMO. You can't expect people to wholly agree, and in fact it would make the debate pointless if they did.

If you can't appreciate any of the arguments as to why quitters quit, why even bother to discuss it? So the non quitters can pat themselves on the back and all their morally superior forum friends who do the same can have a group hug? Have to say both sides of this argument smack of people wanting some sort of approval. Quitters because they can farm their way into gear as long as they get their medals. Non-quitters claiming some sort of moral highground. Both attitudes are OK until one tries to force one onto the other. I despise people who tell the whole team to quit. So they go on my kill on sight list in any match. I'm happy enough with that solution, don't see the need to take them aside and teach them life lessons.

Forum rhetoric does not work and is not persuasive in most cases, it's either patronisiing or inflammatory. If you'd prefer to have only positive answers to closed questions; start a blog. You can always delete responses you disagree with.

Final answer to your underlying question; forcing people to stay in WZs or punishment for those who quit. No to forcing, yes to either a credit loss or delay re-queuing. Moderate penalty for quitting may be justified. That said, allowing people to chose to queue for particular games/PUG only is also arguably justified. I genuinely think WZs would be far worse than they are now if people are forced into anything. That's generally applicable to most things if you think about it.

Exactly what I was thinking lmao. OP proves his point by... Quitting the thread lol.

I find this entire debate just sad. I do not care what the OP's initial point was, but I do think this discourse has gotten to the root of the matter. Most of you worthless human beings have the mentality of eight year olds (and no I am not trolling here. I mean everything I am about to say).

You make the argument that its just a game that you pay for so you can quit whenever you want. Well, frankly that is just wrong. Your parents failed raising you. Here is a simple analogy. You pay for a gym membership. This gym has a basketball court. You go to the gym to play pick up basketball. The moment your team starts losing (or whatever other pathetic excuse you people offer) you say to your team, " F this, I quit! You are all noobs!" See how quickly you get the s**t get kicked out of you. It may "just be a game", but you are playing it with OTHER F**KING HUMAN BEINGS.

Tl;dl: Grow the f**k up, acknowledged the existence of other people, and play the game. You bunch of f**king babies.

How did I quit the thread? The meaning of /thread was that the thread was over because quitters took to justifying their actions.
As a matter of fact. The post above yours was me.
lol?

quitting the match is worse than staying in, farming defender points. the reason is simple: when you rage quit a warzone, you open up a slot for some other poor soul to take your place. also, with the new edition of gear, simply leaving a warzone is just stupid, which makes the offense all the more worse. even if you lose, you still get some valor and coms.

regarding "giving up" and farming defender points: sure, it's not an ideal thing to do, but sometimes there literally isn't any point in trying. sometimes, your team is just that bad. i only do this after giving a good effort in attack, only to be forced to the conclusion that there just isn't any hope after several consecutive deaths for no gain. i'll even declare it in ops chat, so people like you can get mad at me.

You know forums posters are HUMAN BEINGS too, right, right?! The irony in this post is untrue. Apparently you deserve better treatment ingame because YOU ARE A HUMAN BEING but you can swear and shout on the forums (like a babby) and act just like the people you accuse.

richardya - would help if you would stop editing your posts after people have written a response eh

All this thread demostrates is that the so called morally superior non-quitters are equally whiny, self entitled and blinkered as the people they are screaming at.

Ahhh, nerdrage.

On a sidenote... what the hell gym do you go to that they beat you up for leaving a pick up game?

Sorry but the point of the original thread was to discuss what is worse for non-quitters; when quitters leave the warzone or when they stop trying ie: turtle a lone turret. I am not sure why you think I am complaining. Also, I do think people who read these threads think about it. Some don't, some do.

I do appreciate arguments. The person who quits because of hacking I can sympathize with.
My point of downplaying their arguments was actually made by you.

When you have 30 different reasons for quitting:
I hate Alderan
I hate Huttball
I hate Voidstar
I have limited time and only want to win
I hate the daily requirement
I hate facing premades
I hate when people have better gear
etc x 100

It's unfair to accept one reason and not the other. So if you accept all of them than you have to accept that every Warzone will have quitters. All of them. (I mean look at the first three reasons, I have heard all three.) So if you accept quitting then most matches will be decided based on who gets more quitters. Why? Because being down a player or two is a huge disadvantage. Especially in Voidstar and Alderan. If you accept these reasons then you really hurt the game to a large degree. If you allow quitting just for "unwinnable" matches then it's unfair to be subjective. Some quit at 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 4-0 etc. You will see 4-0 quitters mock 1-0 quitters. That is so subjective.

So why go to the forums? Because this is not a 1 player game. When people quit because they don't like a WZ or they don't want to waste their time they end up wasting other people's time. Yes, it's not so bad when people quit a huttball match with two minutes left, but I do believe that the average quitter doesn't think about how he screws over his teammate. This forum will help some quitters realize it. Don't get me started on the poor guy who gets backfilled in to a match because of quitting. How do you do this to other players?

Am i antagonistic, maybe, but my goal is to call a spade a spade and selfishness is selfishness.

You should quit while your behind. The blood spatter from you hitting your head against the wall will not be considered art.

Exactly. Which is why there shouldn't be a penalty for quitting non-ranked matches. Expecting someone to continue playing when they do not wish to, because of the way it will affect you is selfish.