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FREE Character Transfers are Coming!

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HeavensAgent
05.01.2012 , 12:18 PM | #881
If we are not supposed to take the developers at their word, and if we are not supposed to view independently-gathered population data as valid, then what information are we supposed to use? What information are you utilizing in your analysis of the situation?

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Powderhorn
05.01.2012 , 12:32 PM | #882
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Mallorik
05.01.2012 , 12:38 PM | #883
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
If we are not supposed to take the developers at their word, and if we are not supposed to view independently-gathered population data as valid, then what information are we supposed to use? What information are you utilizing in your analysis of the situation?
Why would anyone take the developers at their word about subs or population? if they werent going to fudge the numbers they would not hide the server populations. Anyone else remember a time when mmo server select screens had the actual populations of the servers?

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Claidh
05.01.2012 , 12:38 PM | #884
I'll be honest, I'm not reading 89 pages of arguments and wish lists. I just hope that my guild gets a free transfer off our ghost town server and onto somewhere with a player base. We were placed by BW on our server and I think that the transfer off is owed to us. No, they didn't know which servers would be full and which would wither, but we didn't get our choice to start off with (trying to play by the pre-launch rules) so I do think we should get our transport, intact, for free to a new home. And that includes our Legacy. I've got a lvl 20 legacy "family" that I really don't think I'd try to rebuild in the same way that I did on the first go-round.

I dig the game, I love my characters, but it''s hard to play the entire game solo and stay excited.
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Torcer
05.01.2012 , 12:40 PM | #885
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
My server currently has 35. While people are at work. And school. Your point? You think this is different than any other MMO at 4 months old?

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Actually, yes, it’s VERY different. EQ had far, far more people on the average server at all times than TOR servers tend to have and EQ’s total population was never a fraction of TOR’s supposed 1.7 Million. (Of course you could do a who all for the first few years of EQ and get an actual server number, my server tended towards 1,000-3,000) Pretty much every MMO that wasn’t a complete failure had much more populated servers than TOR does now. There are too many TOR servers, period.

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Jederix
05.01.2012 , 12:40 PM | #886
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiaa View Post
Hold your horses!

I'm pretty sure it says "paid" server transfers as well.

And why, oh why did I know they would try to pull this server transfer junk? Because they don't want the news of server merges to happen. It's just like WoW. Instead of merging the dead servers it had, Blizzard only offered server transfers to make money and send players to worse populated servers.

This game doesn't need TRANSFERS and new ways Bioware can make more money.

It needs MERGES. PERIOD. Any less than that is just some ploy to pretend there is no problem.

And why do I have a feeling this feature will come around the time another game is announced to release?

It's not fun to not be able to get groups.

It's not fun to level alts with no one around.

It's not fun to fight my own faction over and over in a faction based PvP game.

It's not fun to wait almost an HOUR for one pvp match.


Some people have to study, work etc and don't have time to wait all day just to do ONE thing.

I don't care about how many imaginary people are supposedly playing this game.

As far as my server is concerned I . SEE . NO . ONE.

SERVER MERGES. NOT SERVER TRANSFERS. THAT WILL JUST MAKE THE DAMN PROBLEM WORSE!

Jesus freaking christ...WHO RUNS BIOWARE?
YOU WILL NOT GET MERGERS. YOU WILL NOT GET MERGERS. YOU WILL NOT GET MERGERS.

It's common sense. Well, for most of us anyway.
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HeavensAgent
05.01.2012 , 12:41 PM | #887
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Why would anyone take the developers at their word about subs or population?
It might have something to do with federal legislation ...

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MrPierce
05.01.2012 , 12:44 PM | #888
I'm excited for free character transfers but I still have one worry. I rushed like crazy to get the name I wanted, on a server Bioware assigned me and my guild to. Now my assigned server is d-e-d, and I'm looking to transfer. I already know my name isn't available on the server I'd like to play on, although I have no idea if its being held by a level 50 or by a level 1 placeholder. If it is just being held by a level 1 placeholder will there be some mechanism for me to file a petition and be like "Look, I'm level 50, I have mad /played on this character, can I have my name?" Or does my cool name just rot on the level 1 placeholder to MAYBE be used for someone's alt one day?

Also how are legacies going to transfer? On my old server my legacy name is in the teens and well developed. On my new server my new gunslinger has the same legacy name, but its only level 2. Will I keep my level 2 version or my level 16 version? Can I just combine the experience of both since they're the same name and all grinded by my toons?

Obviously I don't think we know how its going to work yet, but these are my initial concerns, after the elation at being able to at least get my 50 vanguard out of the BFE server he's stuck on.
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HeavensAgent
05.01.2012 , 12:44 PM | #889
Quote: Originally Posted by Torcer View Post
Actually, yes, it’s VERY different. EQ had far, far more people on the average server at all times than TOR servers tend to have and EQ’s total population was never a fraction of TOR’s supposed 1.7 Million. (Of course you could do a who all for the first few years of EQ and get an actual server number, my server tended towards 1,000-3,000) Pretty much every MMO that wasn’t a complete failure had much more populated servers than TOR does now. There are too many TOR servers, period.
This I would agree with. I believe the overall population is strong, but the only way to truly address the issues being experienced on some servers is formal merges. There are too many servers at the moment.

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Mallorik
05.01.2012 , 12:45 PM | #890
Quote: Originally Posted by HeavensAgent View Post
It might have something to do with federal legislation ...
So how would they get away with saying they have 1.7 m subs when they actualy have 1m subs? if it were me i would probably give everyone free subs.